Posted on 11/12/2016 7:12:46 AM PST by NYer
Thirteen cases of mumps have now been confirmed at the State University of New York at New Paltz, an increase of four since last week.
At least eight members of the school's intercollegiate swim team, along with one athletics staff member, are among the sick. Swim practices and workouts were suspended as a precaution at the onset of the initial outbreak.
It's not clear if the additional four cases are connected to the mumps spread on the swim team, which county health officials first learned of a month ago.
Last week, college health officials sent a letter to users of the school's athletic facilities cautioning them about possible infection.
Mumps is a highly contagious viral disease characterized by fever, headache and swelling of the salivary glands. Other symptoms include low-grade fever, fatigue, muscle aches and loss of appetite. After a person is exposed, symptoms usually appear 16 to 18 days after infection, but this period can range from 12-25 days after infection. Mumps can't be treated.
The affected students, who have been immunized against mumps, have been isolated for the recommended period of time.
Twenty students who have not been immunized have been sent home until December.
Campus tours and general information sessions will proceed as scheduled, according to the Daily Freeman of Kingston, but residence halls home to affected students will be avoided for the time being.
Actually, it is just the opposite. By sharing those bodily fluids, their bodies build up resistance. Your body needs a certain level of exposure to "bad things" so it can handle other bad things. When I was deployed to third world nations, the local people had a resistance to pest and pestilence that we could only aspire towards.
When I served on the drill field, it was common for new drill instructors to be constantly sick for the first 2-3 months, because of all of the germs that the recruits brought from all over America. After that 2-3 month period, these new drill instructors very rarely got sick. When my kids were young, hand cleaner was all the rage. I did not let my kids buy or bring it home. The immunity that you get when you are young, helps you later in life.
I grew up with three siblings. All of us seem to have a high resistance to disease- we typically don't get sick and when we do, we have mild symptoms. Two of us married spouses that do get sick regularly. The two of us that married spouses (my wife and my sister's husband) that get sick regularly had two children each. Both my sister and I have one child that does not get sick and another child that gets sick. Since we raised our kids about the same (hose them down before dinner), I have no other explanation for the difference.
I was kinda joking about college students’ hygiene habits. Of course it’s true that building a healthy immune system requires exposure to bad things. Kids playing in dirt, that sort of thing. Hand sanitizer is still new to our state of evolution.
Even saw a recipe for `steak americaine’ (ground beef served raw) where the translation from French said, `for people with healthy immune systems or if you want to strengthen your own’.
On that topic, google “cannibal sandwich” (a Wisconsin favorite). The views run from prudence to prohibition.
16 yr old healthy non sexually active grand daughter was given Gardasil by her uninformed mom on Pediatrician’s recommendation. She now has Fibromyalgia and Rheumatoid Arthritis which leads to a wheel chair. Promising Ribbon Gymnast, in to all kinds of sports and activities. Now there are days she can barely go to school. And the drugs for both are HORRID side effect riddled killers. Japan and Spain have banned Gardasil.
Go back to the DPT shots, my boys reacted to the whooping cough part, they ended up taking half doses or their leg the shot was given in would paralyze for several weeks.
If they were already early stage carriers, the vaccine would not work.
What is this I’m hearing that the Senior flu vaccine will be triple strength? The double made me so sick for 2 weeks I lost 10 lbs going at both ends and noting would stop it, it just had to run it’s course. I’m immune compromised, told not to take even the shingles vaccine, already had 2 small patches.
https://cogforlife.orgDo not give your family anything with aborted human fetal tissue.
https://cogforlife.org/vaccine-overview/
https://cogforlife.org/wp-content/uploads/vaccineListOrigFormat.pdf
https://cogforlife.org/vaccineschedulecdc.pdf
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NYer, metmom manages the Homeschool Ping List here on FR. She and others on the list may have well-developed insights on the question of immunizations.
Measles: Attenuvax [no aborted human fetal tissue]Then sometime late in the Bush administration [or early in the Obama administration], these three separate vaccines were replaced by the consolidated triple "MMR" vaccine, and the two ethical vaccines - Attenuvax & Mumpsvax - were taken off the market [the last doses remaining doses started were used circa the 2008/2009 timeframe].
Mumps: Mumpsvax [no aborted human fetal tissue]
Rubella: ABORTED HUMAN FETAL TISSUE
“Children of Life For God” = “Children of GOD For LIFE”
Certainly sounds like there are some complex trade-offs here. Maybe a good mother’s instinct, informed by the best scientific medical advice she can get, is the best guide.
The best protocol for a child today might not even be the best one for that child if it lived 20 years later too, as medical science keeps on developing. If political interference/collusion with the pharma industry wanes, maybe science will address some of these concerns effectively. I’d never want to do without modern medicine as a whole. Things that could be agonizing or crippling or deadly have been reduced to mere nuisances.
My second child had vaccines at 5. No neurological problems. Third child born with genetic differences and allergies that precluded vaccines even by typical pediatricians. Fourth child also no vaccines. Only one of the four was sick with ear infections and bronchitis and such all the time in his early years. The vaccinated one.
Wow .. !! I only have one child. Like you, I caved to the pediatrician's recommendation for the various series of vaccinations. While waiting for my 3 month old daughter's "well" visit in 1986, I happened to flip through a copy of TIME magazine on the table. In it was an article on the DPT shot and how some children did well with the first 1 or 2 rounds but fared worse on the next 2. There were even several children who died from the vaccination. I brought this to the attention of the pediatrician who said it was rare and "isn't it better to protect your child than suffer from these diseases?" As noted above, she has multiple neurological problems and, like your son, was sick with ear infections throughout her early years.
I recently came across another article from Age of Autism, that delves into the contents of vaccinations.
I don't maintain a list but may start one and have noted your name. BTW - the CDC now recommends the HepB vaccine be given to infants on the day of birth!!! Hep B is a sexually transmitted disease. My daughter adamantly refused. Like several of the vaccines, the Hep B vaccine is repeated at 1, 2, 4 and 6 months. Sd you so well noted. infant and baby brains undergo tremendous development during the early years of life. Introducing all of these chemicals, foreign dna and aluminum, makes absolutely no sense. Thank you for sharing your story.
Autism is a psychological malady, and yet it can be influenced by physical factors. We aren’t even CLOSE to knowing everything God knows about physical humanity, let alone spiritual humanity.
I’m sure wondering why we HAVE to have an “aborted fetal tissue” basis for any vaccine, with it being possible to get stem cells in a number of non-abortion ways today.
This would be something of interest to homeschoolers, I think.
I personally don’t have much insight on it myself but I know others have.
Looking at your own tag. The goal is to get the child as effectively as possible through this journey called the mortal coil. Trade offs, as always, may be needed. We count our blessings and then are willing to leave any or all of them behind for the sake of best serving the Lord.
Praying for wisdom.
I wonder what Ben Carson, for one, has to say about vaccines and the Christian concerns about them.
Thanks for the ping.
Thank you for sharing your experiences. What’s so alarming is that they insist on vaccinating infants and babies at a time when their brains are going through rapid development. Granted, I am much older but when I was a child, the only vaccines we were given were smallpox and polio (live vaccine on a sugar cube). Measles, mumps, chickenpox were all normal childhood diseases. We got over them in a few days and went back to school. As I posted to another freeper, there is collusion between Big Pharma and the gov’t (= $$$ donors). The CDC sets the rules and the pediatricians march to their orders. Thanks again. Good for you for not caving with the foster child. Eye opening, indeed. Was this recently?
I had the mumps when I was in 5th grade.
I am sure we will see much more of diseases and outbreaks in the very near future.
Oh, dear, not more anti-vax hooey.
There is NO evidence that vaccines cause any sort of neurological problem. There is NO physical mechanism that can link a vaccine to the nervous system.
I find that anti-vax fear-mongers count on their targets to know little or nothing about vaccines or the immune system.
The fact is that kids are exposed to countless thousands of microorganisms every day, and their immune systems respond more than adequately. Adding another handful of antigens to that dose of thousands that a child is already exposed to on a daily basis is scarcely a burden on the immune system. Or, to put it this way: you are on the way home from the pediatrician after your child receives three vaccines. Your child finds an attractive rock on the ground and pops it into his mouth before you can stop him. How many antigens do you think your kid ingested with the rock, versus received with the vaccines?
That “study” that allegedly showed that MMR vaccine causes autism was pure fraud motivated by greed, and was debunked years ago. Substituting vague neurological issues for autism and generalizing the supposed harm to occur from vaccines rather than the MMR vaccine specifically does not make the claim any more plausible than when that fraud published his fake study over a decade ago. There is no mechanism by which vaccines can act on the brain to cause brain damage. For one thing, they are not injected into the brain, but into muscle in the arm, or can be given orally or nasally. The body reacts to vaccines just like it does any other protein: it immediately begins to destroy them. One challenge with vaccination is to stabilize the proteins long enough for the body to mount an immune response.
The immune response itself does not cause brain damage. If it did, every child would be brain damaged. The fact is that conditions such as ADHD, autism, mental retardation, schizophrenia, etc., etc., are caused by complex genetics, through the interactions of networks of variant genes. No child’s genetic profile can be changed by vaccines administered months or years after the original sperm and egg fused to form the child’s genome. Vaccines cannot travel through time.
Last, the fact that people can get sick even if they have been vaccinated is not “proof” that vaccines do not work. People get sick when they have been exposed to a threshold number of pathogenic microorganisms, normally called the “infectious dose.” If the normal infectious dose is 100,000 organisms, the vaccine might increase it to 1,000,000 organisms. Thus, the vaccinated person does have increased resistance to the disease because of the vaccine, but still can get the disease with a high enough exposure. With rabies, for example, the disease is so deadly that even if you have been vaccinated and you are exposed through a rabid animal bite, you still have to be treated for rabies. With other diseases, the fact that you have been vaccinated will decrease the severity of the disease and decrease the possibility of lifelong disability resulting from the disease.
Infectious diseases are killers, and can leave survivors profoundly impaired. This is why vaccines were invented, and why they remain an integral part of health management.
I have a good friend who supports your views. She recommends having the vaccines done individually and not all at once. Including ie - MMR- to have that split to 3 separate vaccines on different days.
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