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I lived in VA from 1979 to 2015. I was active in GOP county politics. I served as a poll watcher and election officer over many years. I watched VA go from a solid red state to now a solid blue state in statewide elections. NoVA is why. It started when Kerry won Fairfax County in 2004, the first time a Dem did that in 40 years. Demographics have changed the state. One third of Fairfax County, the largest county in the state, is foreign born. VA is becoming like CA.

I am on for a wager, a wager I would be happy to lose. Last election, I had a similar wager but the FReeper never paid up. $100 it is.

“I am on for a wager, a wager I would be happy to lose. Last election, I had a similar wager but the FReeper never paid up. $100 it is. “

I’m not going to make that bet :-) ... far too much risk and I kind of agree with you.

However, based on your experience, if NoVA is a bit more depressed this time around (for a POTUS race) and the SW part of the state comes out in record numbers, does Trump have a chance, or is NoVA that far gone?

The only reason I ask is that the VA Governor race was ridiculously close ... that’s the *only* reason I think Trump has a shot there. Would *yuge* turnout swing things in his direction :-).

Trump’s making a smart move campaigning here in PA ... he has a legit, real shot at flipping this state. Much like NoVA flipped in 2004, the Western half of PA started drifting to the right after 2008. While Pittsburgh is still a liberal cesspool, the suburbs are nothing like that city. The numbers that have flipped *can* offset Philadelphia as many people have moved from the city and turnout for Hillary is more than likely going to be less than previous years.

We will soon see! :-)