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The minute I saw the preview to this movie I knew it was a gun grabbing effort made to play to the ignorant masses.
1 posted on 10/26/2016 9:22:26 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

Mel Gibson is Australian. He did not grow up in the American culture he grew up in a UK based socialist system. He will never really understand the concept of the 2nd amendment as an inalienable right granted by God.


29 posted on 10/26/2016 10:00:54 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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Religion is obviously very important to Mel. How would he feel if people decided that our religious freedom was “out of balance” and that “something should be done” about the First Amendment?

There are things that should not be touched. Maybe the Second Amendment isn’t Mel’s thing. But it’s our thing. And touching it is not OK.


30 posted on 10/26/2016 10:01:09 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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Mel. HOODLUMS are always going to have guns. TWINKIE’S
guns will be grabbed when HITLER-Y is able to grab them
from TWINKIE’S COLD DEAD HANDS (borrowed that phrase from
CHARLTON HESTON).


36 posted on 10/26/2016 10:46:08 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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Yep

Mel has jumped the shark


37 posted on 10/26/2016 10:46:09 AM PDT by Guenevere (If my people......will humble themselves and pray and seek my face .....I will heal their land...)
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And Hacksaw ridge. Anyway, screw it. While I think the guy was brave in a sense, guys like him didn’t win the war. All those guys who WOULD carry a rifle did.
He isn’t the one I care to see a movie about.


38 posted on 10/26/2016 11:03:26 AM PDT by DesertRhino (November 8th. AMERICA'S BREXIT!)
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It’s going to take someone smarter than me to figure that out.”

That shouldn't take long. Anybody who marries a whore for what, a week, and then has a kid, scandalized, etc. Yeah, that's not too smart.

Back to the issue. Gun control is irrelevant if we have crime and immigration control.

Go back to the 40s and 50s style of law enforcement and judiciary. More prisons. Harsher sentences. Empty death rows by executing inmates. If a criminal commits a crime with a gun, life in prison. If he commits a capital offense and is convicted, death within the week. Heck, let the judge pull out a 45 ACP and execute the sentence right there.

After a few years of this, gun control will no longer be necessary. We could even repeal the idiotic machine gun bill of what, 86? I'd like to buy a Thompson full auto for about what it costs to make instead of the current $25,000 it sells for on Gunbroker.

Immigration control. Bring IKE back with "Operation Wetback." Confiscate businesses that employ crimigrants, etc. Yeah, crime will all but disappear.

40 posted on 10/26/2016 11:08:26 AM PDT by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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“Well, I understand where it comes from, the right to bear arms because the Revolution and that stuff and tyranny and the right to defend yourself, and I still agree with that, but it’s kind of out of balance at the moment,” he said at a recent press junket. “...Something has to be done in order to stop some of the heinous violence that has [occured] just like sporadically and shockingly...”

...

You’re right Mel. Vote the crooks out of office, because they’ve been breeding and importing criminals for 50 years. However, cracking down on already law abiding citizens is going to hurt rather than help.


43 posted on 10/26/2016 11:33:53 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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Thank you for referencing that article Red in Blue PA. Please note that the following critique is directed at Mr. Gibson and not at you, the following material from related threads.

Although the Founding States would have probably liked to prohibit the federal government from regulating arms altogether by including the language of the 2nd Amendment in the specific powers prohibited to Congress by the 1st Amendment, they necessarily had to give Congress the power to regulate guns for the specific purpose of maintaining a militia.

Article I, Section 8, Clause 16: To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

Otherwise, the problem with the 2nd Amendment is that patriots are embracing that amendment to the extent that they seem to be completely overlooking the following.

While the Constituton’s only express delegation of the power to regulate arms is limited to militia purposes, patriots seem to be overlooking that the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate civilian-use arms imo.

In fact, a previous generation of state sovereignty-respecting justices had clarified that powers not expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds are prohibited to the feds.

”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.

Given no express power to the feds to regulate civilian arms, it is disturbing that federal gun control laws for civilian-use arms seem to have started appearing in the books during the time of the FDR Administration, FDR and Congress at that time infamous for making laws which Congress could not justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers.

Franklin Roosevelt: The Father of Gun Control

On the other hand, consider that the Founding States made the 10th Amendment to clarify that powers not expressly constitutionally delegated to the feds, the power to regulate civilian-use arms in this example, are reserved uniquely to the states. But also consider that when the states later ratified the 14th Amendment, they limited, but not prohibited, state power to abridge constitutionally enumerated rights, including the 2nd Amendment.

44 posted on 10/26/2016 12:24:36 PM PDT by Amendment10
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Here's a clue for you Mr. Gibson:


47 posted on 10/27/2016 6:33:23 AM PDT by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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Something has to be done in order to stop some of the heinous violence that has [occured] just like sporadically and shockingly..

Well Mel, as one who has pretended to be a champion of justice many times...what do you usually do to the bad guys?

That's right, lock 'em up...or just shoot em.

48 posted on 10/27/2016 6:37:45 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Trump: A Bull in a RINO closet.)
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