I guess we'll find out in two weeks. If Hillary somehow does better than Obama did in 2012 Electorally, I am going to be depressed for a *long* time.
“I wonder how many independents are ex-GOP’ers pissed off at the party”
Most.
“Hillary somehow does better than Obama did in 2012 “
Not possible.
Even GHW Bush could not do better than Reagan, not that anyone really expected, and Gore could not outdo Clinton.