[rb22982]

In 2012 though, Romney and Obama didn’t have anywhere near the negatives of Clinton and Trump. I don’t think Johnson and Stein end up with 11%, but I think 7-9% combined is likely. It’s possible in states like CA or NY, some Dems may vote one of those 2 as a protest vote since its “safe” - especially bernbots - won’t change the Electoral college but will the pop vote.

[mrs9x]

In battleground states, I doubt those two pull any more than 5% combined.

[Sooth2222]

Even if Johnson triples Ed Clark's 1980 performance, that's still only 3.2%. And Jill Stein is Ralph Nader. She is unlikely to get 2.7%. My guess is that a good number of potential Trump votes are "parked" with Johnson and Stein.

I'd rather see Trump ahead by 2 in the "best" poll from 2012 than behind by 8 as Reagan was at this point in 1980. Trump has been outspent about 5:1 on ads so far. It will be interesting to see what happens when he spends nearly the same amount.

We will find out, "in the fullness of rime"!