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To: Varda
Since forever, the offspring of a married couple are the husbands responsibility. She’s legally his daughter. He should pay.

You can't make this up.

The judge refuses to enforce his parental rights. The judge is more than willing, however, to enforce his responsibilities.

Such an unjust situation cannot last, nor should it.

I suspect those such as you with a traditional view of men's responsibilities would disapprove of the society you would deny helping to create.

This is just one reason (but an excellent one) why marriage is dying. Birth control, unilateral abortion and no fault divorce have changed the rights and responsibilities of women. Their roles have evolved for greater options and less responsibility.

Yet you would leave men stuck with traditional responsibilities, locked in the same old roles. This makes marriage an irrational act for men. Some will be guilted by talk such as the nonsense about refusing to grow up, but that number will shrink.

One need only see the roles played by the men...the biological father, who wants no part of the responsibility for his child...and the responsible if naïve husband, who gets to listen to those such as yourself lecture about irresponsibility...to understand this forces us to a place of which you would disapprove.

Reward irresponsibility and punish responsibility, and see what kind of society results. You're responsible.

38 posted on 10/15/2016 10:11:44 AM PDT by gogeo (Black Lives Matter to Donald Trump.)
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To: gogeo
Long post jumping to conclusions.
Should the judge enforce his parental rights, yes. Even if the daughter doesn't want to see him, they should be required to meet if he requests it.

Birth control, abortion and no fault divorce are all very popular with the American people. They have damaged marriage and society but people want to fornicate and that's what created a situation like this one not proponents of marriage. That women have fewer consequences for a failed marriage is a mistake on our part. (btw the woman in this story seems to indicate the visitation problem really stems from the daughter not anyone else)

As far as marriage dying, fornication and the belief that it's not destructive has more to do with that. Character matters, virtue matters, ignoring those has consequences.

You last part makes no sense. Recognizing that someone has taken legal responsibility that can't unilaterally be given up isn't the same as calling someone “irresponsible”. The guy is the picture of responsibility.

48 posted on 10/15/2016 11:33:56 AM PDT by Varda
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