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To: MrShoop
"What’s your theory on why the polls overestimated Romney’s vote in 2012?"

I got hoodwinked. I listened to Hewitt, Barone, and the Toe sucker Morris. They were so flippin' out too lunch it wasn't funny. Now, Nate Silver called it via social media in 08' and 12' he was ahead of the curve, that was the juice vote, how and why they oversampled Romney, can only be one thing, They wanted him in the race too suck all the money they could out of him, win or lose, the consultant class got paid, didn't matter what side they were on, their checks didn't bounce. Notice with .09% with landlines even Barone isn't jumping in this time, it is a whole new ball game. No one can call the Trump movement because over 30 years of Political Correctness, and Identity politics have woosified so many as they fear for their jobs like the Founder of Mozilla/Firefox, and dare not speak the truth. One reason I posted this thread is because exogenous factors such as the Rallys, social media etc are telling us something that Barone, Silver and all the media and polls can't, and that is my gut and "Sundance" over @ CTH and his statistical research.

73 posted on 10/13/2016 11:22:53 AM PDT by taildragger (Not my Monkey, not my Circus...)
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To: taildragger
I would just point out that Romney also had big rallies going into the election that people thought that showed momentum and energized voters.

You got hoodwinked in 2012 because you understandably wanted Obama to lose. So you ignored the data, and listened to rationalizations from people like Hugh Hewitt, about why it was wrong. If we looked at the data in 2012, it was kind of obvious Obama as going to win. So now it is 2016, don't make the same mistake and get distracted by the size of crowds a a rally, or conspiracy theories. Just look at the data again. Right now, the data is saying Clinton is going to win. There is still time for that to change, but it is more likely to change if we acknowledge the reality than deny it.

88 posted on 10/13/2016 11:42:49 AM PDT by Wayne07
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