[kevcol]

Here is what John Quincy Adams wrote about the Islamic prophet Mohammed:

He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE. [emphasis in the original]


In a March 23, 1790, letter to the editor of the Federal Gazette, Ben Franklin wrote:

Nor can the Plundering of Infidels be in that sacred Book [the Quran] forbidden, since it is well known from it, that God has given the World, and all that it contains, to his faithful Mussulmen, who are to enjoy it of Right as fast as they conquer it.


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[boycott]

The big thing for me was that she wanted to increase the 10,000 refugees to 65,000. That should be repeated over and over.

There is no way to properly vet them.

[cgbg]

It should be fun to watch Hillary explain the Barbary Pirates incidents.

“Well these male chauvinist imperialist pigs invaded sovereign Muslim territory...”

[kearnyirish2]

I assumed she was talking about West African slaves; wouldn’t that make sense?

[Resettozero]

Silly-looking little disciples of hate, those two demon-infested non-Americans.

[Mr. K]

Remember that moron who was sworn in on Thomas Jefferson’s copy of the Koran? (Ellison I believe)

What the gushing media forgot to tell anyone is that Jefferson owned and read the koran (now in two-ply!) for one purpose - to KNOW YOUR ENEMY.

Even in his day, they were viscious savages trying to kill anyone who wasn’t them.

That is part of the reason why the Marines were formed and that is what the “shores of Tripoli” refers to in the Battle Hymn of the Republic... fighting the muzzies

[eyeamok]

Islam was always part of American history”

CORRECT, See Thomas Jefferson and the Barbary Pirates.

[Liz]

"Hillary is right. Muslims discovered America---says so in the Koran."

[Bringbackthedraft]

I’m sure Columbus had a few on his crew when he came over here in 3 ships.

[DesertRhino]

Bullcrap. The first mosque was built here in 1929. Jefferson had a Koran and red it as some sort of informative exotica from far away.
In 1786 Jefferson and Adams went to London to meet the emissary of the Barbary pirates and to see why they were attacking our ships.

They had no idea of what moslems were or how they thought. This tells me they had quite literally never met one and were clueless.

I have never seen a single documented instance of a moslem being here in that era. Not even a diplomat. Not one. Anyone else know of one?

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Muslims were enslaving Americans throughout the Revolutionary War. Maybe that’s what Hillary means.

[henkster]

Yes, there were probably Muslims in the United States during the founding of the country. But they were very small in numbers and played no significant role in establishing our independence. They certainly played no role in the writing of the Constitution or Bill of Rights, as those documents are fundamentally incompatible with Islamic Sharia law.

So like “Black History Month,” whatever role they played will be blown out of all proportion with historical reality to push a political agenda.

[umgud]

I don’t invite people whose teachings/commandments require them to hate and kill me into my home. Kinda like pit bulls, you never can fully trust them and I’m not a gambler.

Enough of us are so far gone we even elected a muslim.

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

Absolute insanity.

[tumblindice]

There she goes again. A Reagan line, but appropriate.

We should put together a list of her lies last night, from guns to coal mining, muslims and on-and-on.
To his credit, Trump pointed out the “gold standard” lie from the first debate. She’s not used to being corrected.

[Ethan Clive Osgoode]

Why not just go all the way and say moslems founded America.

[b4me]

yes there were muslims in US apparently before columbus according to some simple searches - a Harvard project webpage said maybe as far back as 1200’s a PBS History detective link said 1300”s and both said for sure when slaves were being brought in. Also spain exiled some muslim people and they settled in carolina’s.
Some years back I read there was a very small percent of muslim in the population at US founding but that founders were well aware of belief differences and what that meant for peoples living peaceably with each other long term.

We have to keep in mind the Americas were where countries sent those they did not want and also where people came to get away from persecution in other countries.

[al_c]

“we’ve had Muslims in America since George Washington.”

My jaw dropped at that one. If there were any Muslims in America during Washington's time they were among the African slave population. They certainly didn't have anything to do with the building of our country.

[Redmen4ever]

There is a variety of evidence pointing to pre-Columbus contact of Europeans and people of the Mediterranean, and even some of Chinese contact.

These are scattered bits and pieces. Nothing that enables us to say anything more definitive that they were pre-Columbus contacts.

The obvious pre-Columbus contact was of the Vikings. While variously argued by scholars, the discovery of Viking villages upon the receding of the glaciers in Newfoundland and Greenland confirms not merely occasional contact as when a ship becomes lost at sea, but actual colonization. As to what became of these Viking settlements, it appears that the Little Ice Age had something to do with it.

As for Islamic contact with the Americas, and Muslim presence at the founding of the country, there is very little tangible evidence, but there is some. Columbus was in contact with the Islamic world and, perhaps, was tipped off not only to the trade winds but also to the existence of a land mass in the vicinity of the Americas. His map of the world was terribly off, being much smaller than what had been known since the days of ancient Egypt ad Greece about the circumference of the world. But, this map could have reflected an attempt to reconcile the position of “China” relative to Europe, given knowledge that there was a great land mass not far west in the Great Sea.

Regarding slaves, taken from west Africa, it is likely that most of them were captured by Muslim tribes and then sold to Europeans. But, possibly among the slaves were some Muslims. While stripped of their clothing and possessions, it is possible those Muslim slaves remembered enough of the teachings of Islam to appreciate the similar teachings of Christianity. But, African animists clearly embraced the Gospel message, so the forced or fraudulent conversion of slaves to Christianity was hardly necessary. Remember, it was among the mixed-race slaves of the Roman Empire with whom early Christianity spread.

That three names could be found among the rosters of the Continental Army that might have been a Muslim is hardly indicative of anything. All three names were apparently taken by the men after they had gained their freedom. Possibly one or more of the three were Muslims, but there were no Korans or Mosques or any other indication of community worship. By the time of Washington’s march to Yorktown, the Continental features many men of color. My state of Virginia gave freedom to many who joined in the struggle and we had a very large population of free men of color as a consequence. So, if there were any, they were only a few.

Paradoxically, the Civil War is proof of no American Muslims at the time of the Revolution. We clearly had Muslims in our army during the Civil War. But, they came here from Morocco and elsewhere in the Islamic World, not from among our native born population. Some came here as runaway slaves, and joined in our effort to free the slaves; and, some came here as free men in order to free the slaves in this country.

Hillary Clinton has her purpose in saying what she did, grasping at mere traces of history to make a political statement.

[hanamizu]

We don’t have to go back that far in American history. How many Star and Crescents mark the graves in Europe from WWi & WWII? How about in the Punchbowl in Hawaii? How many Muslim-Americans died on Omaha Beach or are entombed on USS Arizona? We actually got along pretty well for a long time without them.

[DoodleDawg]

It’s a claim that is impossible to prove or disprove.