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'Playing guns,' spaghetti Westerns and our violent gun culture
Chicago Tribune ^ | 26 sept 2016 | John Blades

Posted on 09/26/2016 5:11:12 AM PDT by rellimpank

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To: rellimpank

Because inner city youths watch soooooo many westerns. Or something like that.


41 posted on 09/26/2016 6:29:47 AM PDT by vpintheak (Freedom is not equality; and equality is not freedom!)
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To: exit82

Same here; I see they still make plastic helmets for the kids as well (though it probably doesn’t look too cool or “Audie Murphy” with a goofy neon orange gun). I remember the plastic M-16s which made the rattling sound as you pulled the trigger; a couple of kids had the Winchester-type(?) pop-guns.


42 posted on 09/26/2016 6:31:17 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: rellimpank

The article starts with a lie and some people feel obligated to argue the point based on accepting that the bedwetter has some valid point.

“Gun violence” came from the left’s failed attempt at “gun shaming”. The left was losing the argument of ideas. They need to conduct guerrilla warfare against the populous to bring them back. They taught our children not to respect life or authority. They taught them to accept violence as the only alternative to argument.

When children played guns, people didn’t shoot up Theaters, Schools, malls or campi. That fact simply shows that his initial premise is nothing more than a manufactured lie based on a false narrative.


43 posted on 09/26/2016 6:47:48 AM PDT by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects; starve the bastards)
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To: rellimpank
The innovative brutality of these and numerous other movies was just a prelude to the '60s, with the breakaway arrival of "Bonnie and Clyde," whose comically murderous escapades ended in a fusillade of machine-gun fire that left them shredded road kill. Their gruesome deaths opened the bloodgates for the spaghetti Westerns, in which Clint Eastwood's nameless gringo gunslinger decimated hundreds of grizzly, anonymous bandidos.

Well he get the timing wrong on that. A Fistful of Dollars and For a Few Dollars More preceded Bonnie and Clyde. The Good The Bad and the Ugly was released a few months after Bonnie and Clyde in the US.

44 posted on 09/26/2016 7:01:41 AM PDT by xp38
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To: rellimpank

The comments will restore your faith in humanity.


45 posted on 09/26/2016 7:31:47 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Lung cancer free since 11/9/07. Colon cancer free since 7/7/15. PTL ~ Þ)
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To: rellimpank

The author feels guilt, has never owned a gun, never served. he is a wuss..


46 posted on 09/26/2016 7:32:16 AM PDT by hawg-farmer - FR..October 1998 (VMFA 235 '69-'72)
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To: rellimpank

“Let’s play guns!”

Nobody said that...it was cops and robbers, cowboys and indians or army.

Just tipped his hand he’s a liar.


47 posted on 09/26/2016 7:56:14 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: rellimpank

Listen up, Blades, you freaking MORON. I was born in 1941. Along with every boy I grew up with, we played “gun” games probably thousands of times. Soldiers, cowboys, hunters and hoodlums, you name it. We had cap guns, BB guns, and .22s. When we got old enough we had bigger guns, shotguns, etc. And we shot at tin cans, dumpster rats, rabbits, squirrels, opossums, and other critters. And later we shot at North Koreans, Chinese, Vietcong and other enemies of America. And more recently some of us became law officers and shot at violet criminals. But, of the 30+/- guys I’m referring to, NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM EVER COMMITTED A FELONY WITH OR WITHOUT THE USE OF A FIREARM. So I have request for you: FUC OFF!


48 posted on 09/26/2016 8:21:48 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (The Democrats are so lacking in class, especially the avant-garde.)
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To: exit82

Much later I think Mattel came out with very realistic looking gear called “Monkey Division” which was very high end warfare and expensive. I think it was based on the Vietnam genre.


49 posted on 09/26/2016 8:21:49 AM PDT by Netz ( and looking for a way ti IMPROVE mankind.)
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To: ModelBreaker

We never fought the Cold War, just WWII. It was cool because our father’s were WWII vets and kept us in check. As to Nuclear weapons, we never didn’t even know there was such a thing as DEFCON III...


50 posted on 09/26/2016 8:23:57 AM PDT by Netz ( and looking for a way ti IMPROVE mankind.)
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To: NELSON111

My point was simply that spaghetti westerns are an Italian genre having almost nothing to do with America, the making of America, the opening of the west, or American values. In Europe, Klaus Kinski was a western star! And when I once saw a dubbed actor eating an apple with a knife and fork, the whole genre (which I personally feel is putrid) cratered into satire-ville.


51 posted on 09/26/2016 2:57:53 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: Netz

***but we did not have the massive gore that exists today.***

How true! Back in 1968, Bobby Kennedy was murdered and the news media lead the anti-gun anti-violence hysteria. Adult TV shows were dumbed down to kiddie shows. Pulp fiction changed their covers to have less blood and sex. Movies on TV were butchered to remove even the remote hint of violence.

Movies on the screen? Well, the industry said they would police themselves with a joke of a “ratings system”. This unleashed the most vile bloody sexually explicit movies ever made to audiences. The spurting blood, exploding heads, bodies torn apart became the normal from that day forward.


52 posted on 09/27/2016 6:02:22 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (HANDGUNS; You don’t need it until you need it. And when you need it you NEED IT!”)
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Hollywood must raise the gore bar with each new film because people have grown accustomed to extreme violence and now, that is not enough so it just gets worse and worse to the point that nut jobs live out there cinema fantasies by mass killing because, it's “cool”.

How many times can we see New York or LA destroyed by:

1) Martians
2) The fog
3) The cold
4) Airborne sharks
5) Robots
6) Earthquakes
7) Godzilla
8) Nature rebelling against mankind
9) Apes
10) Dinosaurs
11) Etc.

53 posted on 09/27/2016 10:55:23 PM PDT by Netz ( and looking for a way ti IMPROVE mankind.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Spaghetti Westerns are near verbatim copies of Japanese movies. They depict the conflicts of the samurai code in a changing world.


54 posted on 09/27/2016 11:31:57 PM PDT by kitchen (If you are a luthier please ping me.)
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To: kitchen

And they still stink.


55 posted on 09/28/2016 2:44:08 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: circlecity

Same here. We played cowboys and Indians or the good guys guys and the bad guys. I remember having one of those pirate shaped smooth bore pistol which I found in a ditch. It was nothing more than part of a tree branch that looked like a pistol. I felt like taking on the world with that thing stuck in my pants. We were an odd bunch. In the summer our attire was a pair of blue jeans. That’s it, no shoes or shirts. And of course, we supplied our own sound effects even down to the sound of a ricocheting bullet. The whole experience was enchantment personified.


56 posted on 09/28/2016 3:00:37 AM PDT by donaldo
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