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To: HarleyLady27

This is the same regurgitated plan liberals have been pushing for decades. Now all of a sudden because Trump pushing it, it is now ok...sign me up!
I can point to NUMEROUS posts within FR where Obama and many liberal democrats have given the same pitch and rightly so we trailed on them.

Is there anything Trump can pitch that you won’t come out against? Have we all been pulled left now and just march right along?

How many more times are we going to just blindly follow not pressing our candidate? How much more do we need to tie ourselves into a pretzel trying to explain away clearly liberal policies? Have we sold our conservative principles for the sake of “getting our guy in?”


40 posted on 09/15/2016 12:19:36 PM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: Jarhead9297; Dr. Sivana; Mrs. Don-o; Wolfie; itsahoot; JenB987; nclaurel; RitaOK; HarleyLady27; ...
Jarhead9297:

You might want to consider that increasing the citizen birthrate is in the nation's interest. Contrary to the tenor of several posters on this thread, what Trump is proposing is simply an update of a Harry Truman policy that used the tax code to subsidize a increase in the birthrate with a few add ons. The government itself has an interest in an increased birthrate so that there are adequate numbers of qualified young people available to the military in time of war or to take up skilled labor positions. More is better.

We are essentially living in an economic depression courtesy of the idiots the USA has been electing to public office, and, if truth be known, the idiots who have elected them.

Many people today are basically too selfish and materialistic to make the sacrifices to raise children much less large families of them. My mother's sister had ten children. A female cousin in Cambridge, Massachusetts, married to a ditch digger, and whom I met on her 95th birthday, had twenty-four children. We aren't seeing a lot of that any more. No one has an obligation to have ten, much less twenty-four, but all too many determine at the outset to have none or one. They have a right to make that decision and the rest of us have the right to criticize that decision.

It goes without saying that this is not a criticism of those who are involuntarily childless. Furthermore, we should praise those who are childless who adopt and nurture the children of parents who cannot properly care for their children.

This is a prescription for us to go further down the sorry road already traveled by Germany, Scandanavia, France, Italy and Western Europe. Don't like the numbers of Latin American and Muslim immigrants and what they will likely do to our economy and our culture? Blame the selfishly childless materialists who think that somehow they can have it all including Social Security and Medicare, without taxpaying citizens.

We live in a still largely free society. No one has any business requiring anyone to have children and no one suggests such a thing. Nonetheless, we NEED more native born Americans to maintain OUR society, OUR standards and OUR culture.

When you think of "liberal," you apparently see only programs that cost YOU money. Is a military draft conservative or liberal? Certainly an all volunteer military has much to recommend it. Personal freedom far more profound than your right to squeeze the buffalo until it scrams. The benefit of depriving politicians of the luxury of forcing young men into service. Instead, the politicians have to CONVINCE them that the cause is worthy.

Just in case there ARE women who cannot actually afford to bring their children to term, proposals such as Trump's will ease the burden on those women while concededly increasing your burden and mine (by an infinitesimal amount). We are paying colossal sums of money (a lot more than is proposed here by Trump) to fund the Marxist indoctrination centers that are our gummint skewels. Abolish the gummint skewels and take half the savings for this program and the other half to fund parent controlled actual quality education without the costly athletic programs, marching bands, junior years in Europe, and all the other frills and fancy stuff.

While we are at it, destroy, by appointments, the leftist bloc on SCOTUS, overturn Roe vs. Wade, and recognize a 14th Amendment right to life of each and every unborn child.

If it costs mere money for these kids to live, so be it.

49 posted on 09/15/2016 3:01:36 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Rack 'em, Danno!)
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