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To: C19fan
The Pledge is an interesting subject to me. It was written by a socialist Baptist Minister, Francis Bellamy, in 1892. More than 100 years after the Declaration and the adoption the Constitution.

I have often wondered what the Founders would have thought of a pledge of allegiance to the federal government. I've come to the conclusion that most of them would abhor it.

Don't get me wrong. I revere the flag and principles for which it stands. I just think a pledge of allegiance flies in the face of the Revolution.

22 posted on 09/14/2016 7:44:59 AM PDT by CapitalistCrusader
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To: CapitalistCrusader

Since some here mention socialists, here you go: the communists and 9th Circuit agree with your position that the pledge of allegiance is a bad thing:
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2004/07/pldg-j01.html
The SCOTUS disagreed.


28 posted on 09/14/2016 8:09:10 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: CapitalistCrusader
I have often wondered what the Founders would have thought of a pledge of allegiance to the federal government.

But of course we don't pledge allegiance to the government. Its to the flag that represents the country, and not the government.

Further along those lines, you'll note that soldiers and public officials pledge to uphold the Constitution, they do not pledge loyalty to any government either.

So as long as loyalty the flag doesn't contradict our prior allegiance to God, it is not idolatry though I have heard some people try to say so.

33 posted on 09/14/2016 8:22:05 AM PDT by marron
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To: CapitalistCrusader

You are flat WRONG!

Its a pledge to the REPUBLIC, i.e. the form of government establish by the Constitution.

So in essence, it is a pledge to the Constitution itself.


34 posted on 09/14/2016 8:22:47 AM PDT by EarlT357
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