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To: ealgeone
there is so much stuff written by catholics the average catholic does not understand what their church really teaches.

That is why there are divisions. As one poster wryly said, The last time the church imposed its judgment in an authoritative manner on "areas of legitimate disagreement," the conservative Catholics became the Sedevacantists and the Society of St. Pius X, the moderate Catholics became the conservatives, the liberal Catholics became the moderates, and the folks who were excommunicated, silenced, refused Catholic burial, etc. became the liberals. The event that brought this shift was Vatican II; conservatives then couldn't handle having to actually obey the church on matters they were uncomfortable with, so they left. ” Nathan, http://www.ratzingerfanclub.com/blog/2005/05/fr-michael-orsi-on-different-levels-of.html

176 posted on 09/04/2016 8:47:59 AM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: daniel1212

Things start to get REALLY interesting when these different pieces start damning the others to hell over the differences. And yes this is a Protestant issue as well as an Orthodox issue and a Catholic issue.

Ironically, the chaos seems to point up Jesus the Savior as being MORE important than “which piece of the church”, not LESS. Somebody might walk into a congregation that is less than Perfectly Right, and yet be laid hold of by the Savior and blessed while worshiping there and eternally saved in heaven. C. S. Lewis, at least, attempted to find a bridge to this gap in “The Great Divorce” by having his characters from heaven say “We’ve all been wrong! Now we can start living.”


180 posted on 09/04/2016 9:59:55 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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