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Kellyanne Conway Is Not Helping Donald Trump – And Perhaps That’s the Plan…
The Last Refuge ^ | August 24, 2016 | Sundance

Posted on 08/24/2016 5:32:27 AM PDT by SatinDoll

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To: HangUpNow

You betcha.


81 posted on 08/24/2016 8:55:28 AM PDT by GoKnow
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To: edie1960; All
So far, she has proven herself to be a SNAKE, foolishly invited in by none other than Trump himself!!! She is probably in contact with Lyin’ Ted and both are laughing behind Trump’s back and at his expense, literally!!! Bring back Paul Manafort or turn to Ed Rollins!!! Time is running preciously short!!! Loyalty is of the essence!!!

Hey Newbie - sounds more like YOU are a disgruntled Cruzer - GOPe

a bit suspicious of you, considering your Newbie status


82 posted on 08/24/2016 8:57:45 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (A Christian is as a Christian does - "By their works...")
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To: Lakeshark

“The times I’ve watched her on Hannity’s show, she has been one of the more vocal Trump supporters, and for a lot of months.”


That is also my observation.

Add to that the fact that since she has come on board, Trump is more focused on what is wrong with our country, what is wrong with Hillary, and how his policies and experience will get us out of trouble and on to the right path. That is EXACTLY what he should be doing; he should NOT be getting diverted for days or more on stupidity like the Khans, etc. (no matter how correct he may be - and is).

So what’s the problem with her? I don’t see it, not yet. On the immigration issue, I think that Trump understands very well that if he backs off too much, he’s going to lose a lot more of his die-hard supporters than he’ll pick up in luke-warm, Johnny-come-lately voters. If the “change” is a very slight one of emphasis and definitions, while not touching the core of making sure that immigration not only doesn’t hurt us (via terrorism or economics), but helps us, then that’s fine with me.


83 posted on 08/24/2016 9:07:36 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: GoKnow

Thank you. That’s about what I thought.

From the stuff I’ve read of his here, he seems to be nothing more than a con artist, manipulating a conspiracy theory and stirring up something out of nothing.


84 posted on 08/24/2016 9:18:58 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia (#neverhellary ... but then, I'm just an uneducated hayseed)
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To: Ancesthntr; Clyde5445
"Sundance" (whoever he is) has been a fairly reliable source during this campaign.

My observation, and inclination is to say he's wrong about her. I gather a lot of people here think the same as we do. She has been a whole lot better than most. Only a select few have been as trustworthy to watch IMHO.

85 posted on 08/24/2016 9:27:57 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Trump. He stands for the great issues of the day. He's not Hillary. I love both these things.)
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To: GoKnow

Sundance has been big on a Trump landslide all year & the hidden monster vote. What he’s doing with this Conway story is obvious....in case Trump loses, he’s setting up his GOAT to pin the loss on & tell his fans he was correct all along, that Conway came in & messed things up.


86 posted on 08/24/2016 10:08:44 AM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: PJammers

Have you been paying attention? Did you see Kellyanne’s interview with Greta last night? I don’t know how much more explicit his team needs to be.


87 posted on 08/24/2016 10:20:13 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

This is nothing new. If you were paying attention Trump has stated that repatriation of illegals will be easy for those without criminal records. As a matter of fact he specifically said they go back and come right back in legally.

Additionally, how do you propose the mass removal of illegal immigrants? How can we realistically send every one of them back to thier host countries? We just go in guns blazing and herding entire families into cattle cars and dump them at the border?

If someone who came here illegally, is not a violent criminal, has been gainfully employed and isn’t on financial aid, what is wrong with them paying a fine and entering a naturization process and assimilation program? You do this, build the wall and enforce immigration law everyone wins.


88 posted on 08/24/2016 11:39:13 AM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: PJammers

Yes, you are right about that—and he made no mention of kicking them out, really, on his stated policy he put out months and months ago.

But he has managed to focus elsewhere and talk about enforcing the law such that many Freepers (and, I’d imagine other prospective voters) have been deceived.

He managed to beat up Cruz and others re: amnesty—while promising at least touchback amnesty himself.

As old Romney said (but didn’t really mean), enforcing enough of the laws and clamping down on government subsidies, etc., would get many of them to “self deport”. Then simply arresting them and seeing them out of the country when we encounter them otherwise—making sure they take their kids with them like any good parents would do—would address the bulk of those remaining.

Those who came here illegally are a majority leftist-voting, welfare (in various forms) taking, low-skill immigrants even if they are employed here, and they have also overwhelmingly committed identity theft and other felonies and misdemeanors while stealing from our country. They also receive affirmative action preferences over many Americans who have been here for generations.

In practicality we are talking like 30 million-plus such illegals. They’d draw in their families by chain migration, and the offspring of illegals of their demographics have also been welfare-dependent and low-skill, though also with a greater amount of social pathologies, for generations to come. Moreover, too many of them are not assimilating, and they are with their culture, language, and voting, creating a fractured social fabric rather than weaving themselves into the American culture.

Then there are the jobs that they are taking, clustered there at the low-end of the skill pool, from the poorest of native Americans who are getting forced out of the positive experience of gainful employment. This particularly applies to our young black men.

We need to instead give immigration slots to those who have been waiting patiently and who are prepared to offer competitive skills and talents that are a net addition to our economy.

You seem to have fallen for the propaganda that somehow for the US to deport someone who tries to live here illegally is inhumane. What rubbish!


89 posted on 08/24/2016 12:05:05 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

I haven’t fell for anything. I’m being realistic. Get the criminals out, build the wall, enforce the current immigration policy, restrict the H1-B and refugee program. Fine non violent productive illegals and get them in the legal immigration process.

Forcing 30 million people over the border is not only unrealistic, it would be impossible to enforce.

Cruz should have been beat up for the simple fact that he supported full amnesty before he was against amnesty. The same goes for Rubio.


90 posted on 08/24/2016 12:35:43 PM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: jazminerose

I heard him on Hannity. I’m thinking he’s been saying that all along, hasn’t he?

Of course, enforcing current laws is not what the dems want (and too many Republicans don’t want). They want evil comprehensive reform, which is the scam we’re thinking it is. So dems have huge incentive to crank up their fraud machine


91 posted on 08/24/2016 12:41:20 PM PDT by Heart of Georgia (#neverhellary ... but then, I'm just an uneducated hayseed)
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To: PJammers
All illegal aliens can be and should be deported. We can use self-deportation encouraged by denying social services, jobs and schools. Criminals, such as drug dealers, and others would need forcible deportation. It is not breaking up families since the family can leave with them.

Poland, a much smaller country, had no difficulty in deporting 16 million Germans.

92 posted on 08/24/2016 12:43:56 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Dante3

As much as you or I want that to be true, it’s just not going to happen. They are going to be offered a path to citizenship. The wall will be built. Criminals will be deported along with those who don’t conply with naturization laws. That’s the best we can hope for.


93 posted on 08/24/2016 5:11:03 PM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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