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Kellyanne Conway Is Not Helping Donald Trump – And Perhaps That’s the Plan…
The Last Refuge ^ | August 24, 2016 | Sundance

Posted on 08/24/2016 5:32:27 AM PDT by SatinDoll

There were two types of people who attended CPAC in March 2016 and gave Speaker Paul “Omnibus” Ryan (the former chair of the budget, well, actually, non-budget committee) a standing ovation.

Type one was the professional political class, the UniParty membership, the GOPe; those who happily welcomed Omnibus and who gleefully ignore the seventh spending of the nearly $1 trillion, “one-time” 2009 stimulus bill.

Type two, was those who are overcome with battered conservative syndrome and see nothing wrong with giving thanks to their abuser.

One of those attendees was the former partner of GOPe mouthpiece Frank Luntz, and current campaign manager for Donald Trump, Kellyanne Conway.

Whether Conway is the hand placing the scorpion into the bed sheets of Trump, or whether she is the scorpion itself, is yet to be determined. However, one thing appears quite clear, she was not put into the Trump campaign to ensure his election. Exactly the opposite appears true.

Conway’s current action, the ‘too-cute-by-half’ schtick on Trump’s immigration policy, is factually undermining the Trump campaign. Then again, shouldn’t this be expected when fellow consulting traveler Luntz and herself hold the same professional immigration objectives outlined in their historic support for Marco ‘gang-of-eight‘ Rubio.

It’s well known, the UniParty has a collective immigration agenda, amnesty (under various “comprehensive” parseltongue auspices), and a quasi-open border approach granting virtually unlimited immigration use policies.

Everyone would be very wise to remember the Senate Gang-of-Eight bill almost passed the house in 2014 because Boehner, Cantor, McCarthy, Ryan were all actively working toward the vote in June when Cantor was primaried by Dave Brat. Brat’s defeat of Cantor stopped the vote less than 72 hours before it was scheduled to take place.

In the buildup to the June 2014 House vote, Frank Luntz and the various Fox tentacles were in full alignment with the GOPe to pass the grand Obamacare-like usurpation against the will of the electorate.

The U.S. CoC, Wall Street, the people who pay for ‘the Conways’ of the political class, had it all worked out.

Back in August of 2015, when Jeb was still the chosen choice and when the rise of Trump was the paramount GOPe/UniParty concern, another of Conway’s professional consulting allies, Alex Castellanos shared exactly how the Trump insurgency could be destroyed:

[…] The best way to do it is how Brutus killed Caesar. Get real close, snuggle up, and shiv him in the ribs.

If by “shive him in the ribs” Castellanos was referring to having Trump’s campaign manager directly and unilaterally begin to contradict the very platform that gained Donald Trump so much enthusiastic support, then it appears the Castellano’s plan is well underway.

In the past four days, it appears Mrs. Conway -a long term advocate for the GOPe position– has begun to undermine her own candidate:

Conway attempted to clarify Trump’s stance on immigration, saying he wants to ensure the law is enforced…. “to be determined“, she says.

“What he supports is to make sure that we enforce the law, that we are respectful of those Americans who are looking for well-paying jobs, and that we are fair and humane for those who live among us in this country,” she said.

It appears Mrs. Conway is quite adept at creating just the right size crack in her candidate’s armor that will allow the circling MSM to drive their wedge lustfully into the opening and provide themselves the demoralizingly joyful “we told you so” to Donald Trump supporters. “Isolate-Ridicule-Marginalize” ~Saul Alinsky

And Conway’s veiled efforts are not going unnoticed:

Mickey Kaus, an overwhelmingly decent man, is being overly generous with the use of “suggestive generalities“. What Kellyanne Conway is actually doing is far more damaging, far more demoralizing.

And with the 25+ year political pedigree of Mrs. Conway in mind, and knowing her rolodex is jammed full with a who’s-who of the professional UniPartyparty apparatus, and knowing she is a walking gatekeeper for Billionaire Robert Mercer, well… it ain’t because she’s new or naive to this process – Conway knows exactly what she’s doing.

…and none of it is good:

And it ain’t just Mickey, Byron and us noticing:

@04:16 “this could be my shortest book tour ever”… [Quote from Ann Coulter]

Some political followers who also travel through the deep weeds have suggested that Conway is testing out “false flags” to gauge the potential severity for backlash.

Nope. I just can’t extend her that much credit…. it just sounds too much like falling back on the old “battered conservative syndrome” hopes and prayers – they won’t do it again, etc.

Oh hell yes they will. They always do.

Breaking the cycle of battered conservative syndrome means you accept things as they are, not as you wish them to be.

If you accept things as they are – the fact is Mrs. Kellyanne Conway has spent her entire political lifetime advocating for, and being paid for, positions that are entirely popular amid the donor class and the professional DC politburo…. then, you must also accept grandma’s odd adage: “a leopard doesn’t change it’s spots“.

Or for the sake of this analogy, Aesop’s fable is more appropriate:

scorpion-frog

A scorpion and a frog meet on the bank of a stream and the scorpion asks the frog to carry him across on its back.

The frog asks, “How do I know you won’t sting me?” The scorpion says, “Because if I do, I will die too.”

The frog is satisfied, and they set out. But in midstream, the scorpion stings the frog. The frog feels the onset of paralysis and starts to sink, knowing they both will drown, but has just enough time to gasp “Why?”

Replies the scorpion: “It’s my nature…”

Trump Frog.

“Shiv” delivered.

It’s her “nature”…


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016issues; deportations; illegalaliens; illegals; kellyanneconway; softening; trump
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To: HangUpNow

You betcha.


81 posted on 08/24/2016 8:55:28 AM PDT by GoKnow
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To: edie1960; All
So far, she has proven herself to be a SNAKE, foolishly invited in by none other than Trump himself!!! She is probably in contact with Lyin’ Ted and both are laughing behind Trump’s back and at his expense, literally!!! Bring back Paul Manafort or turn to Ed Rollins!!! Time is running preciously short!!! Loyalty is of the essence!!!

Hey Newbie - sounds more like YOU are a disgruntled Cruzer - GOPe

a bit suspicious of you, considering your Newbie status


82 posted on 08/24/2016 8:57:45 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (A Christian is as a Christian does - "By their works...")
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To: Lakeshark

“The times I’ve watched her on Hannity’s show, she has been one of the more vocal Trump supporters, and for a lot of months.”


That is also my observation.

Add to that the fact that since she has come on board, Trump is more focused on what is wrong with our country, what is wrong with Hillary, and how his policies and experience will get us out of trouble and on to the right path. That is EXACTLY what he should be doing; he should NOT be getting diverted for days or more on stupidity like the Khans, etc. (no matter how correct he may be - and is).

So what’s the problem with her? I don’t see it, not yet. On the immigration issue, I think that Trump understands very well that if he backs off too much, he’s going to lose a lot more of his die-hard supporters than he’ll pick up in luke-warm, Johnny-come-lately voters. If the “change” is a very slight one of emphasis and definitions, while not touching the core of making sure that immigration not only doesn’t hurt us (via terrorism or economics), but helps us, then that’s fine with me.


83 posted on 08/24/2016 9:07:36 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: GoKnow

Thank you. That’s about what I thought.

From the stuff I’ve read of his here, he seems to be nothing more than a con artist, manipulating a conspiracy theory and stirring up something out of nothing.


84 posted on 08/24/2016 9:18:58 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia (#neverhellary ... but then, I'm just an uneducated hayseed)
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To: Ancesthntr; Clyde5445
"Sundance" (whoever he is) has been a fairly reliable source during this campaign.

My observation, and inclination is to say he's wrong about her. I gather a lot of people here think the same as we do. She has been a whole lot better than most. Only a select few have been as trustworthy to watch IMHO.

85 posted on 08/24/2016 9:27:57 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Trump. He stands for the great issues of the day. He's not Hillary. I love both these things.)
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To: GoKnow

Sundance has been big on a Trump landslide all year & the hidden monster vote. What he’s doing with this Conway story is obvious....in case Trump loses, he’s setting up his GOAT to pin the loss on & tell his fans he was correct all along, that Conway came in & messed things up.


86 posted on 08/24/2016 10:08:44 AM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: PJammers

Have you been paying attention? Did you see Kellyanne’s interview with Greta last night? I don’t know how much more explicit his team needs to be.


87 posted on 08/24/2016 10:20:13 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

This is nothing new. If you were paying attention Trump has stated that repatriation of illegals will be easy for those without criminal records. As a matter of fact he specifically said they go back and come right back in legally.

Additionally, how do you propose the mass removal of illegal immigrants? How can we realistically send every one of them back to thier host countries? We just go in guns blazing and herding entire families into cattle cars and dump them at the border?

If someone who came here illegally, is not a violent criminal, has been gainfully employed and isn’t on financial aid, what is wrong with them paying a fine and entering a naturization process and assimilation program? You do this, build the wall and enforce immigration law everyone wins.


88 posted on 08/24/2016 11:39:13 AM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: PJammers

Yes, you are right about that—and he made no mention of kicking them out, really, on his stated policy he put out months and months ago.

But he has managed to focus elsewhere and talk about enforcing the law such that many Freepers (and, I’d imagine other prospective voters) have been deceived.

He managed to beat up Cruz and others re: amnesty—while promising at least touchback amnesty himself.

As old Romney said (but didn’t really mean), enforcing enough of the laws and clamping down on government subsidies, etc., would get many of them to “self deport”. Then simply arresting them and seeing them out of the country when we encounter them otherwise—making sure they take their kids with them like any good parents would do—would address the bulk of those remaining.

Those who came here illegally are a majority leftist-voting, welfare (in various forms) taking, low-skill immigrants even if they are employed here, and they have also overwhelmingly committed identity theft and other felonies and misdemeanors while stealing from our country. They also receive affirmative action preferences over many Americans who have been here for generations.

In practicality we are talking like 30 million-plus such illegals. They’d draw in their families by chain migration, and the offspring of illegals of their demographics have also been welfare-dependent and low-skill, though also with a greater amount of social pathologies, for generations to come. Moreover, too many of them are not assimilating, and they are with their culture, language, and voting, creating a fractured social fabric rather than weaving themselves into the American culture.

Then there are the jobs that they are taking, clustered there at the low-end of the skill pool, from the poorest of native Americans who are getting forced out of the positive experience of gainful employment. This particularly applies to our young black men.

We need to instead give immigration slots to those who have been waiting patiently and who are prepared to offer competitive skills and talents that are a net addition to our economy.

You seem to have fallen for the propaganda that somehow for the US to deport someone who tries to live here illegally is inhumane. What rubbish!


89 posted on 08/24/2016 12:05:05 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

I haven’t fell for anything. I’m being realistic. Get the criminals out, build the wall, enforce the current immigration policy, restrict the H1-B and refugee program. Fine non violent productive illegals and get them in the legal immigration process.

Forcing 30 million people over the border is not only unrealistic, it would be impossible to enforce.

Cruz should have been beat up for the simple fact that he supported full amnesty before he was against amnesty. The same goes for Rubio.


90 posted on 08/24/2016 12:35:43 PM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: jazminerose

I heard him on Hannity. I’m thinking he’s been saying that all along, hasn’t he?

Of course, enforcing current laws is not what the dems want (and too many Republicans don’t want). They want evil comprehensive reform, which is the scam we’re thinking it is. So dems have huge incentive to crank up their fraud machine


91 posted on 08/24/2016 12:41:20 PM PDT by Heart of Georgia (#neverhellary ... but then, I'm just an uneducated hayseed)
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To: PJammers
All illegal aliens can be and should be deported. We can use self-deportation encouraged by denying social services, jobs and schools. Criminals, such as drug dealers, and others would need forcible deportation. It is not breaking up families since the family can leave with them.

Poland, a much smaller country, had no difficulty in deporting 16 million Germans.

92 posted on 08/24/2016 12:43:56 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Dante3

As much as you or I want that to be true, it’s just not going to happen. They are going to be offered a path to citizenship. The wall will be built. Criminals will be deported along with those who don’t conply with naturization laws. That’s the best we can hope for.


93 posted on 08/24/2016 5:11:03 PM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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