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To: MarchonDC09122009
The fact that Injecting a child Directly Into the Blood stream with Aluminum, preservatives, adjuvant and particles of viruses Has a Far More Severe Impact on an infant’s immunological and neurological system than the bacteria and viruses that child would normally ingest through typical oral and nasal contact.

First, vaccines are not injected directly into the blood. Most of them are injected into muscle, but some of them can be injected into the skin. Some vaccines can be administered orally or nasally.

Second, dead viruses or fragments of virus or bacterial proteins do NOT have a more severe impact on a child's immune system than living pathogens. Living bacteria literally eat flesh, regardless of whether they are called "flesh-eating" or not. If a child does not have an adequate and appropriate immune response to bacteria, that child can become seriously ill and even die. Active viruses literally enter cells and take them over, forcing them to make more virus particles while preventing them from performing their natural functions. Once again, if a child does not have an adequate and appropriate immune response to viruses, that child can become seriously ill and even die. Some bacterial or viral infections can leave a child permanently damaged. Ever see pictures of polio victims?

I fail to see how the real risk of serious illness and potentially death is somehow more dangerous than an injection into muscle of dead viruses or bacteria, which are completely broken down into their component amino acids, lipids, and sugars by the body within days.

These days, people take for granted the freedom from disease that vaccines have given us. And since they have never seen massive numbers of children dying from infectious disease, or the kids permanently crippled from diseases like polio, or kids born with birth defects because of diseases like rubella--because they have never seen these horrors which were so common as little as 100 years ago--anti vaxxers always find people gullible enough to believe their lies.

The claim that the MMR vaccine causes autism was a complete fabrication by a shady "doctor" who was looking to make money dishonestly. First, he wanted to make money by selling a measles vaccine in which he had a financial interest. People don't want to give their kids three separate shots when one will do; thus, there is little market for a measles-only vaccine. Also, he was partnered with a lawyer. Together, they planned to sue vaccine manufacturers--the fraudulent article purporting to show a link between MMR vaccine and autism would have been published proof of the "expert testimony" the "doctor" would have provided on behalf of the lawyer's lawsuits. The Lancet made a mistake publishing that article. It was retracted years ago, and the dishonest "doctor" had his license to practice pulled.

The reason for the supposed increase in autism has nothing to do with any real increase in the number of cases, but in diagnosis and in changed definitions. In the past, most autistic kids were considered mentally retarded. But now they are more precisely diagnosed, so that the number of mentally retarded children has dropped and of autistic children has increased. In addition, researchers are beginning to uncover the real causes of autism. Characteristics of autism indicate that it has a strong genetic component. There also seems to be some indication that mothers who have high fevers during pregnancy have a greater chance of having an autistic child. I look forward to the day when all of the causes of autism are finally understood. That is the day when anti-vaxxers will have to find another way to hoodwink people.

Think about it. Vaccines are responsible for saving more lives than any other medical invention in history. Anti-vaxxers--those who push anti-vax kookery, like Barbara Loe Fisher--know this perfectly well. Yet they go around trying to convince people to be more afraid of vaccinating their children than they are of having their children die from preventable diseases. That is, the anti-vaxxers want children to die. Why do you even listen to them?

FYI, I am a medical researcher, and I happen to know a LOT about vaccines and infectious disease. Don't bother trying to snow me with anti-vax propaganda. Others have tried, and gotten nowhere. I feel very strongly about protecting children's health, so of all the medical nonsense out there, this is the one I routinely choose to debunk.

27 posted on 08/23/2016 6:56:08 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom

RE: “I feel very strongly”
And that dear freeper lady along with pharma-medi religious dogma that makes you emotionally incapable and tone deaf to consider failability of your field. Doubling vaccine dosages in infants since 1983 just “may” be the cause of quadrupling autism in male toddlers.

I’m sure many a “medical researchers” who “felt” they knew a lot about microbiology & biochemistry sure had a hard time coping with fact that their pharma-medi god deliberately rushed deadly medications to market and obfuscated inconvenient negative results, sacrificing payients on the altar of profits.

Your blind faith in insistently believing the pharma-medi syndicate is not only ill founded based on ethics findings below.
Big pharma-medi syndicate continues to needlessly kill people.

Vioxx, Fosamax, are just two BIG disasters that come to mind which provide ample reason to question the ethics of pharma-medi god you unquestionably bow before.

http://ethics.harvard.edu/blog/new-prescription-drugs-major-health-risk-few-offsetting-advantages

“New FDA policies to get more drugs reviewed faster so that they can reach patients sooner in fact mean that drugs are approved with less evidence of being safe or effective. A systematic study of shortened reviews found that each 10-month reduction results in an 18 percent increase in serious adverse reactions, an 11 percent increase in hospitalizations, and a 7.2 percent increase in deaths. The risk of serious adverse reactions occurring after approval increases from 1 in 5, to 1 in 3—a huge risk that nobody is telling the public about.

In response to drug disasters like Vioxx, which experts say caused about 120,000 traumatic cardiovascular events and 40,000 deaths, Congress and the FDA have set up monitoring and safety systems. But a review of results so far found little evidence they are identifying serious risks or altering prescribing practices.”

“In a recent decade, between 2002 and 2011, independent reviews by clinical expert teams in France, Canada, and the Netherlands have concluded that only 8 percent of 946 new products were clinically superior, down from 11 to 15 percent in previous decades (see Figure, below). Only 2 were breakthroughs and another 13 represented a real therapeutic advance.”


31 posted on 08/23/2016 9:36:48 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: exDemMom

You hurt children.

You “know” facts to be true in areas of unknowable uncertainty. Vaccines will never be a certain science. Ever. It is innate.

The doctor had his license revoked. The effect is if you research vaccines, then one’s life will be destroyed. Instead, your license should be pulled for an arrogance harmful to children.

Fallacy of Authority. I know PhD medical researchers. They could not organise a thought outside of biology. They are whack job liberals sucking on Govt OPM.

You “feel” for the children. So others should harm their children over your feelings. The problem with science is you are not allowed a single error. And you just had your fallacy.

As a researcher you are either dependent on Govt money or on pharmacy patents. No compassion, you are the most dangerous kind, coercion to your twisted viewpoints.

Society needs more courageous adults who protect children by understanding freedom. Freedom creates alternatives and solutions. Speak up to Vaxers and their constant non-sequiturs.

You hurt children.


35 posted on 08/24/2016 2:08:58 AM PDT by TheNext (Hillary Hurts Children & Women)
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