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TRUMP JUST PUT THE FEAR IN EVERY CONGRESSMAN WITH 1 EPIC PROMISE TO AMERICA
CONSERVATIVE TRIBUNE BLOG ^ | AUGUST 19, 2016 AT 1:45PM | BY: WILMOT PROVISO 

Posted on 08/19/2016 6:37:58 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

For many establishment congressmen of both parties, being elected isn’t a chance to make a difference in the political life of America. It’s a sinecure that allows them to become fat off of special interest money and speaking fees.

Americans of all stripes are frustrated with this attitude, which is part of the reason why anti-establishment Donald Trump got the Republican nomination.

Now, Trump has made a huge move to end congressional sinecures and the politicos who occupy them. According to Associated Press, Trump told an audience in North Carolina that he would look into term limits for Congress if he were elected president.

Trump made the remarks Thursday afternoon while speaking before a group of local law enforcement officers in the swing state. A questioner asked the Republican nominee about it and said he wanted to “get these bums out.”

Trump gave him plenty to look forward to. He told the audience member that, “(w)e’re going to take a very serious look” at establishing term limits.

While it would take a constitutional amendment to accomplish, make no mistake — establishing term limits would arguably be the biggest accomplishment of any president since World War II.

Part of the mess we’re in as a country — especially in terms of debt, deficit and political pusillanimity — has to do with establishment politicians who hang around Washington for half a century or more.

One rarely (if ever) does this because they’re fighting for their constituents. They’re addicted to power and all that comes with it. This power, unfortunately, is often wielded at our expense, particularly when it comes to government spending.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 114th; congress; cronycapitalism; elections; enrichingfriends; selfdealing; termlimits; trump
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To: Publius
But that issue may end up in the Supreme Court.

They have no jurisdiction. None.

Under what possible provision of the Constitution does it give the Supreme Court the authority to decide who can or can't be a delegate to a convention of the States?

You are engaging in Liberal Think.

141 posted on 08/19/2016 8:54:26 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

A better approach that wouldn’t require a constitutional amendment is expanding the House to include more members. Ideally, there should be one Rep per 50k voters.

I understand this makes the House significantly larger. However, it dilutes the power of each and every one of those bastards. Moreover, it would be inline with the US Constitution.

If we’d do this, I believe you’d see the following things happen :

1. Smaller congressional districts. Far less gerrymandering.

2. Fewer career politicians ... The House would be a madhouse as the founders intended. You’d have to have convictions to spend 2 years there.

3. Less cash required to campaign since, again, districts would be smaller.

4. More accurate Representation. There would be more of a chance that a candidate that isn’t aligned with your beliefs wouldn’t be the polar opposite.

5. Less corruption. In theory, it’d be pretty damn hard to buy half the House if there were thousands of members vs. the size of a typical high school class.

I think House expansion is the way to go. It’d be a leap in getting the FedGov under control ... In my opinion anyway.


142 posted on 08/19/2016 9:14:51 PM PDT by edh (I need a better tagline)
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To: Chgogal

I believe you are possibly correct about the President being able to replace certain political appointees at the head of some of the departments and agencies. I believe the agencies are part of the Executive Branch, but Congress legislates them into existence and then legislates their funding. So Congress would have to abolish the Department. I searched Department of Education and found this:

“Ribicoff was quick to support the President’s decision, and in March he and Senators Magnuson, Humphrey, Pell, and Nunn introduced yet another Department of Education Organization Act. The bill did not come up
for a vote in the House during the same session, and the entire proceedings began all over again the following year. This time the bill did reach the House, where it passed in a close vote. President Carter signed the bill into law on October 17th, 1979, finally ending a struggle of almost 150 years to establish a Cabinet-level Department of Education.”


143 posted on 08/19/2016 9:15:07 PM PDT by LTC.Ret
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

I don’t agree with this proposal but I’m glad he’s willing to look at different issues and shake things up a bit.

We so need that.


144 posted on 08/19/2016 9:15:16 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

As well, within and Article V ‘Convention of the States’, the states should eliminate any amendment or federal law which was either not properly ratified to begin with, or acted to reduce the authority of the States and their Voters.

Additionally, the Article V convention needs to constitutionally address and lawfully force the immediate redaction of ALL Constitutionally Undelegated Federal authority BACK to the STATES!


145 posted on 08/19/2016 9:17:20 PM PDT by patriotfury (May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tent!)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Term Limits for Congress and also for SCOTUS.

Will never happen — these soulless critters will protect each other.


146 posted on 08/19/2016 9:20:53 PM PDT by 353FMG (AMERICA MATTERS)
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To: edh

Regarding the size of the House of Representatives...

Does the house have too much power or too little power?
What is the proper balance?

Should the size of the house be fixed at xx times the number of the senate?
Originally, representatives were about 2 1/2 times in number as senators
(65 vs 26)...
...now, it is 4 1/2 times in number (435 vs 100).
...now, to keep the original 2 1/2 to 1 ratio, it would translate to 250 representatives.

Should the size of the house be fixed by population size
(example: 1 rep per xxx # of citizens)?
Originally, representatives were 1 per 30,000 in population
...now, that would translate to 10,000 members in the house of representatives.


147 posted on 08/19/2016 9:25:30 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: Repeal The 17th

I’d prefer it be set by population. It’d scale upwards with each census.

As far as the Senate is concerned ... Id like to see a few States break up into smaller ones.

Ugh ... I am typing on my phone right now ... I will reply with more tomorrow when I’m on my PC (I hate typing on this thing) ...

I am commenting from the perspective that the big problem in DC are corrupt politicians ... As many have pointed out, we also need to reduce the number of bureaucrats.

Finally, Senate seats need to go back to appointment vs. this Democratic nonsense ... Governor term limits should help keep the turnover rate there fairly decent.

Also, if we would have a large House ... No exotic pay and benefits for all the new members :-).


148 posted on 08/19/2016 9:35:11 PM PDT by edh (I need a better tagline)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Term limits of 2 each of senate and HR; no chance to become entrenched, focus would be on doing for “we the people” instead of them - think about a simple example of getting post offices installed in stupid places...pork...running the country more like a business and a “real capitalist” one, not a crony capitalist/fascist/socialist one.


149 posted on 08/19/2016 9:37:18 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Fatherless violence is the problem; think about the double meaning.)
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To: PGR88

The only aspect of power that increases with tenure in Congress is the corruption. Sure, it’s powerful, but that kind of power doesn’t serve the people.

It serves the members of Congress. Let’s try to get people to understand this.


150 posted on 08/19/2016 9:37:29 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: reasonisfaith

Term limits are badly needed.


151 posted on 08/19/2016 9:45:17 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: qam1

A vote for your congressman is very different from supporting or not supporting term limits in general.


152 posted on 08/19/2016 9:54:12 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: PGR88
Congress already has less power than before.

They have the same power they have always had, they just choose to use it selectively mostly for things that have nothing to do with helping the people or the Constitution.

I predict if Trump is elected they will suddenly discover they have power after all.

153 posted on 08/19/2016 10:00:28 PM PDT by itsahoot (GOP says, Vote Trump. But if your principles won't let you, Hillary is OK.)
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To: SkyDancer

Like my brother calls them: “Glorified messenger boys”. That one cracked me up because that’s exactly what they are aren’t they. You can’t have the entire population descending upon Washington to have their voice heard, so we send these “messenger boys” instead to rep us, to let our voices be heard. The only problem though is these messenger boys rip us off, demand they be treated like royalty and think they are above the law when they are nothing more than public servants.


154 posted on 08/19/2016 10:00:42 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (By His wounds we are healed.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
the apparatchiks in the bureaucracy, people who are lifelong “civil servants” will become the masters.

They already are. Congressmen when they come into office are likely going to keep all the hired help no matter who their previous boss was. Congress has handed all the hard work off to staff or regulatory agencies that rule with the stroke of a pen.

155 posted on 08/19/2016 10:04:28 PM PDT by itsahoot (GOP says, Vote Trump. But if your principles won't let you, Hillary is OK.)
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To: Amendment10
“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

Well that proves just how effective the Constitution is in restraining tyranny.

156 posted on 08/19/2016 10:09:49 PM PDT by itsahoot (GOP says, Vote Trump. But if your principles won't let you, Hillary is OK.)
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To: FreedomPoster
the real issue is the lifelong employment of members of the Federal bureaucracy, much more than Congressional seats.

Unionized members of the bureaucracy thanks to John Kennedy.

157 posted on 08/19/2016 10:13:12 PM PDT by itsahoot (GOP says, Vote Trump. But if your principles won't let you, Hillary is OK.)
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To: itsahoot; All
"Well that proves just how effective the Constitution is in restraining tyranny."

With all due respect to mom & pop, it doesn’t help when parents don’t make sure that their children are taught about the fed’s constitutionally limited powers the way that the Founding States had intended for those powers to be understood.

158 posted on 08/19/2016 11:43:13 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: SkyDancer

Voters on both sides are ready for term limits!


159 posted on 08/19/2016 11:53:08 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Mariner

Amen to that!


160 posted on 08/19/2016 11:54:39 PM PDT by HollyB
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