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To: Ken H

I think it depends some on how big the city.

There are some smaller cities here in CNY that have a black population in them but surrounding them is farm country pretty quickly and LOTS of hunters and gun ownership.

Another factor in some places, Syracuse comes to mind, is the reservation south of the city, right on the border. It’s fairly close to the south side and I can’t imagine that the natives would warmly welcome feral blacks, much less anyone else into their nation.

And there are many reservations here in Upstate NY but I think that the Onondaga one is the closest to a city of any significant size.

And should the SHTF scenario happen during the winter, many who try to abandon the cities will die of exposure. When I see how so many people these days dress so causally in the dead of winter, not realizing that exposure can take them in short order, there are going to be many besides the feral population who just don’t make it for that reason alone.


34 posted on 08/17/2016 1:49:05 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Perseverando; All

Get one of these.

https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-2000014865-5-Gallon-Solar-Shower/dp/B0009PUT20

I Have the 2½ gallon size, a dollar at a yard sale, it works great and is plenty water for a shower, including washing hair. Trick is to get wet, turn water off and shower, then rinse. Left in the sun in 90° weather it will get too hot, you’ll have to add cold water.

A 5 gallon bucket also works well, if you can heat water. Cut a hole in the bottom and put in a short pipe or PVC, attach a shower head and ¼ turn valve, a 5 gallon bucket holds enough water for 2 people to shower. Use rubber gaskets, silicone to seal if necessary. We used one for about 10 years when I lived in central Texas. No electricity or running water, 55 gallon barrel (plastic) outside the kitchen window with a pipe and faucet for water, brought in from town in 5 gallon jugs daily. Had permission to get water from a couple of places.

I’m unemployed, can’t afford much, but have started to stock up on seeds. Need a good pellet rifle, have 2 but both crap and only one works. I’d love to run across an old Benjamin...I could rebuild it without a lot of trouble.

Which reminds me, I guess I need to get some fishing line, I live 100 yards from a good lake. Any extra fishing line should be stored in a plastic bag, and in the dark. Sunlight and chemicals in the atmosphere will cause it to gradually break down a weaken if stored for years. Already have plenty baits, probably need to check and see if I Have any hooks though. I haven’t fished in 16 tears, got burned out on it. Living here right by a lake, I was out in a boat daily for 10 years, got tired of it. Good thing is, I know how to pull a bass out of the lake...I caught dozens in the 3 to 5lb range. Also a good cook...

What else...

Better get used to the idea of an outhouse, running water will be a thing of the past, that means indoor pluming will be useless.

Might also be a good idea to build a permanent outdoor BBQ too, out of fire brick if you can get some. Cooking inside on 100° summer days sucks. Find some pecan or hickory trees, walnut might work too, and save any and all limbs that fall on windy days. Use those only for the cooking fire. We had a large hickory 50 yards from the house and a couple more in the woods, they kept us supplied with cooking wood.

A cold frame for starting garden plants is good too. I dug a hole a foot deep the size of 2 windows, had some used wood frame windows sitting around. Lined it with bricks, bottom and sides, built a wood frame facing south, with about a 10°tilt at top, attached windows to the top with hinges. Keeps plants from freezing at night, prop one or both windows open during the day, depending on temp, close it about 2 hours before dark for heat to build up. Seedlings will love it. I kept a spray bottle full of water in there too. Started with 3 inch tomato plants before last frost, by planting time I had foot tall plants ready to go.

Build a solar food dehydrator.

http://www.offthegridnews.com/how-to-2/how-to-build-a-solar-food-dehydrator/

We have a couple of electric ones, but I’ll probably be building a solar one in the not too distant future. I think I have the glass, know I have the wood.

Kerosene lamps. Kerosene is not easy to find and not cheap, but I have a couple of gallons stored, and 3 or 4 old kerosene lamps. As long as fuel holds up, I can save the candles.

Consider some heavy black drapes. When things get bad, you don’t want wandering strangers to see your lights on at night. Can’t think of a better way to invite the riff raff over at 11PM...

I’ve been seriously thinking about a small platform in a tree, if I have a little warning it would be a good sniper spot, and an elevated lookout perch is always better than a ground based one. I would have to paint that bright orange ladder though...and how about a small platform on the back side of your roof for the same reason. A roof with a 7 to 12 pitch is really difficult to stand or walk on, anything over 5 to 12 isn’t easy, and a simple 4 foot square platform might be a good spot and unexpected, with a better view. Always on the back side of the house out of view from any road. Idea is to make nothing but the top of your head visible to anyone approaching.

I just started looking up info on how to make a bow string, already have 2 recurves and just got a crossbow, started looking at prices for a crossbow string and decided it was time to learn how to make my own. That reminds me I don’t have enough arrows either...


36 posted on 08/17/2016 2:41:06 AM PDT by Paleo Pete (Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.)
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To: metmom

Everyone on FR is thinking about young black males from the city and have forgotten about the local Hispanics. A lot of people think their maid and yard man or the farmhands love them and boy are they going to get a surprise. Even if your maid is fond of you I’m sure her son isn’t and he’s heard his mom talk for years about where you keep your weapons and where the cash is hidden.


86 posted on 08/17/2016 9:37:45 AM PDT by stellaluna
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