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To: Edward.Fish
As an aside. The F22 has had some issues with its oxygen delivery systems. A pilot died in Alaska and other pilots (multiple, including some whistleblowers) complained about hypoxia. It's never a good thing to hear pilots don't like to fly a new toy.

That said, while McCain hated the thing, the Air Force and its contractors screwed the pooch on this plane. Took 26 years to produce and was waaaaaaayyyyy over budget.

I like great military aircraft as much as the next guy, but this program was poorly managed in production and implementation. I suspect the Air Force got a spanking over this one.

32 posted on 08/03/2016 4:34:59 AM PDT by irish guard
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To: irish guard
Took 26 years to produce and was waaaaaaayyyyy over budget.

I remember when the first "Joint Strike Fighter" flight sims hit the shelves at the software shops in the late 1990s. Published by a company that's now defunct and sold by retailers that are no longer in business.

36 posted on 08/03/2016 8:31:52 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: irish guard
As an aside. The F22 has had some issues with its oxygen delivery systems. A pilot died in Alaska and other pilots (multiple, including some whistleblowers) complained about hypoxia. It's never a good thing to hear pilots don't like to fly a new toy.

I do recall hearing about that.

That said, while McCain hated the thing, the Air Force and its contractors screwed the pooch on this plane. Took 26 years to produce and was waaaaaaayyyyy over budget.

Yeah, it was over-budget... but I actually blame Congress for that: just like they've entered into absolutely terrible trade-agreements, they've also written up absolutely terrible contracts for development. (And they should certainly be more competent with budgeting.)

I like great military aircraft as much as the next guy, but this program was poorly managed in production and implementation. I suspect the Air Force got a spanking over this one.

I agree that there was poor management, but that seems to be because mismanagement isn't punished and, in the cases of those horrible contracts, can even be profitable for the company developing it.

41 posted on 08/03/2016 9:42:11 AM PDT by Edward.Fish
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