Posted on 07/29/2016 5:36:19 PM PDT by kindred
I believe that the Roman Church will merge into the one world church with Islam and other cults and become the Woman riding on the back of the beast, the antichrist who will try to destroy the prophecy of God for Israel.
We don’t have a Pope. We have an anti-Pope.
Indeed.
Yup..
It wouldn’t be the first time the Roman church, or its predecessor organization since getting mixed up with the state in a way that there was no biblically recorded mandate to carry out, got itself into theological tangles.
It ain’t to say that modern Protestants have it perfect either.
But we would be very wrong to deny the “in part” limitation upon the degree to which the hardening came to Israel. There is no blanket authorization in the New Testament to pan the Jewish people as a whole. Prior to the explicit revelation of Christ, all salvation had to be private (as it was to the psalmists). A day is coming when all surviving Israel will behold and accept the explicit public revelation of Christ. They are running behind the church, but not without promised blessings of God.
Also, more modern Roman theology is friendlier to Israel than older Roman/Orthodox theology was.
The creation of the State of Israel has no theological significance for Catholic theology. Its recognition by the Vatican was purely a diplomatic act, not a theological act. The State of Israel was recognized because a secular Jewish state has established sovereign control over the land. It was not recognized as the legitimate continuation of the Old Testament Covenant.
Get a life.
“He also keeps protecting mistaken Catholic doctrine about Israel.”
There are no “mistaken Catholic doctrine[s] about Israel.”
And this was a mistake, with respect to the Hebrew people gathering to populate it. The modern Israel may not have realized all of the Lord’s promises yet, but God’s promise did not get yanked out from under the whole Hebrew people like it was a cheap rug.
Every time the “Palestinians” get into a self destructive rage and have their heads handed to them by the modern Hebrew people, it seems that some anti-Zionists have to chew out the latter people, not the former, for what transpired. The Hebrew people themselves have shown themselves to mostly be of generous inclination. If the “Palestinians” wanted to live in peace, rather than choosing to let themselves be driven by evil Islam, they’d be in fat city among the Jews right now, who have to waste so many resources on protecting themselves from “Palestinian” rage. What do you do with a people who has a perpetual chip on its shoulder?
It’s only a flesh wound.
We have a Life. That is why we speak of Him.
Always thought of myself as pretty hip when it comes to Christian doctrines but I never knew this; doesn't seem to have much scriptural foundation. In fact, runs up against some clear prophecies about the restoration of Israel such as in Ezekiel 37 not to mention the teachings of Paul.
I don’t really keep up on current events, but isn’t the Pope the guy that wears silly looking hats and dresses up in Superhero capes and robes and is a devoted Marxist ? Maybe I’m confusing him with some other Month Python character.
Any fair discussion of this issue would need to include them. Any fair discussion of the issue.
What the Scriptures teach vs the Roman Church teaches is different. All Christendom that has abandoned Scripture is in mortal danger as the heresy therein is so very ungodly and damaging. The Scriptures teach that Jesus Christ will bring Israel back into the land once again after their punishment for the cross of their Messiah, and God did this in 1948 and will begin to build them up for war against their enemies world wide. These enemies will develop under the man of peace, the antichrist, who will then begin to overcome the world and control all who hate Christ and His people Israel and will bring in the final war of Armageddon, fought in Zion under the antichrist and his armies, who is Satan’s man and a great world leader. Jesus Christ will return to the mount of Olives in the last day of the 7 year tribulation and destroy His enemies and their armies in Israel and bring in the Kingdom age according to the Scriptures. This is true doctrine as taught by God in His Word by His Holy prophets and by His apostles. All should have the book of God and should read it for themselves. No church or cult or creed or religions can change the will and work of God by Christ Jesus, Lord and Saviour of those who believe on Him for salvation and for truth.
The Roman Catholic Church.
Are you sure? Search the Scriptures, Jesus said, for in them you think you have life and they are they that speak of me. The Jewish nation of Israel is the nation God has chosen to finish His work of salvation on the earth with that tiny strip of land and its people therein. It is there He will deal with both the Jewish and Gentile nations who mock Him.
“Its only a flesh wound.”
That’s how we were healed: 1 Peter 2:24. Israel needs the Physician and yet they still reject Him.
You need to reread Saint Paul. In Jesus Christ there is no longer any distinction between Jews and Gentiles. All are now called, Jew and Gentile alike, to salvation in the one covenant of Jesus Christ. This is true Biblical doctrine.
“...since Jesus of Nazareths prophecy that Jerusalem would be destroyed, that the Jews would be exiled as slaves among the nations and remain scattered to the end of time . Being that Jerusalem has now been rebuilt, to become a center for the renewed Israeli State, we are duly bound to add this is a direct contradiction to Jesus own prophecy.”
Nonsense. Jesus said Jerusalem would be TROD DOWN by the gentiles, UNTIL the time of the gentiles was fulfilled.
Not that the “tredding down” would last forever. It would come to an end.
and
“So when they came together, they asked Him, Lord will you at this time restore the kingdom to Israel? Jesus replied, It is not for you to know times or seasons that the Father has fixed by His own authority.” (Acts 1:6,7)
IOW, Israel will be restored, just not at the moment that Jesus was speaking.
Jew and Gentiles of the Church age which began with the eleven apostles of Jesus and then Paul, all Jews, and then God began the body of Christ when He sent Peter to Cornelius house, a gentile who loved Israel and prayed to God, who Peter witnessed to. Then, while Peter yet spoke of the works of God and His Christ, the Holy Ghost fell on him and on his household and they began to speak with tongues and this astounded Peter and the six Jews with him that God brought in the Gentiles also. The church, the body of Christ, Jew and Gentile for some 2000 years now.
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