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To: Mariner

I thought the consensus across the board - from RedState on to the far left - is that Hillary had triumphed and would sail to the presidency without a hitch now.


2 posted on 07/29/2016 12:24:52 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: madprof98

their morons.. when has a convention ever elected a president.. Ususally just info commercial that gives a sugar high.


5 posted on 07/29/2016 12:28:14 PM PDT by scbison
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To: madprof98
I thought the consensus across the board - from RedState on to the far left

.... but you repeat yourself.

34 posted on 07/29/2016 1:22:54 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Muslims kill people because they're sick of being called violent! They're violent over Islamophobia!)
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To: madprof98

Redstate is so irrelevant now and its sad. I used to be friends with some of those guys mostly Joshua Treviño who managed the Chuck Devore Senate campaign. We used to debate back and forth frequently post Chuck’s failed campaign. I’m still friends with the Devore’s. Josh is a good guy and the best of the founders of that site.

Erik followed me for a long time and we had limited interactions and mostly I aligned with his positions but we fell out primary over the way he treated Virginia Senate Candidate Radke. He invited her to Redstate then tried to smear her as a drunk. Erik really started to change once he decided to become a CNN commentator. Now he’s went on some kind of uber Christian bender which again usually wouldn’t be a problem if he’d be a little more grace sharing.

I really don’t know what is wrong with guys like Erikson. My humble analysis is that he like Glen Beck and others have decided that they protecting the status quo because the alternative is chaos or the loss of some navie view of conservatism. They like to call Trump childish but honestly I’ve never seen a more childish position. Erik and the Nevertrumps supported Romney, they supported McCain, they even support worms like Mark Kirk.

Now I don’t know what their goal is beyond keeping the $ flowing their way any way they can by being Trump antagonists. They clearly don’t care more about this country than their personal butthurt. A Hillary election is certain to permanently shift the Supreme Court to the far left. Continued open borders will permanently change the shape of the electorate to one that is hostile to constitutionalism of any kind. Continued importation of sharia believing Muslims will cause the horror that we are witnessing in Europe to become even more common on our own shores.

Maybe that is their goal. Maybe they want to see Hillary appoint a leftist judge that will finally provide the vote to kill the 2nd amendment and spark a Civil war. Maybe they want Muslim populations to grow so as to offer an offset to social liberalism. Maybe they want to bring on the apocalypse and let America slip into a Venezuelan like condition which if it happens here will be 1000 times as bad as it is there. No matter how much I sometimes hunger for all out war I can not see that as a means to an end. Trump offers us proof that a peaceful though sometimes pugnacious revolution is possible at the ballot box and given the choice between the apocalypse and chance at American greatness reclaimed. I’ll choose the later every day. I have no desire to kill my fellow citizens or see them dead I just want a country where I will not be drafted against my will into their causes whether personally or financially.

That is the America we need to get back to, one where we are not in collective strait-jacket, one where we are not substituting a religion of the state for a personal religion of our choosing.


39 posted on 07/29/2016 1:37:15 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Free is just another word for someone else has to pay.)
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