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To: Enchante; headstamp 2; Mrs. Don-o; JesusIsLord; Nifster; Twinkie; SE Mom; Kid Shelleen
> "It sounds totally credible and I see no reason to doubt the veracity of this witness."

What's significant is that he was an Iranian-German who held dual citizenship, and that the shooting was not a rightwing reaction to immigration, as some persons had suggested. On the other hand, the claim that he shouted "Allahu akbar" is doubtful, to say the least.

The claim stems from the telephone remarks of someone identified only as Lauretta. She was found soon after the initial attack when a reporter called businesses in the vicinity of McDonalds in hopes of finding a witness.

I'd like to believe what she said because it serves the cause of anti-Islamization, but she makes several claims that bring her testimony into question. 1) That her son saw the shooter loading his pistol in the bathroom, and that she herself was only "two centimeters" away from him when he started shooting. That's possible, but unlikely.

As for the loading, the shooting hadn't started yet. Why wouldn't he have brought his gun from home already loaded? And would he have started shooting with someone just "two centimeters" away, and possibly in a position to subdue him (or, at least, impede him enough to allow others to do so)? I doubt it.

2) Most important -- she claims that he shot children inside McDonalds -- "the children were sitting to eat". As far as I know, no one was shot inside. A video shows him standing outside, in front of McDonalds, and firing at people who are approaching. If anyone has information that bodies were found inside, please post it. Until then I'm forced to assume that her story is a fabrication.

Two CNN YouTube videos (each contains part of the story): How the supposed witness was found, "Allahu Akbar" claim.

77 posted on 07/23/2016 4:46:06 PM PDT by GJones2 (Munich shooter was Iranian-German, but "Allahu ackbar" doubtful)
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To: GJones2

re: “two centimeters” I think it’s just an expression to say that she was shocked at how close he was. of course he was more than just a few cm away. She said she came out of the bathroom... so she wasn’t right there as he decided to begin shooting. Some things do sound surprising, I agree about that, such as that he would shoot with his back to the bathroom door(s) where he might be vulnerable to attack from behind. But he may have started shooting very quickly after emerging from the bathroom. As for loading the gun there, sure that seems odd, but the very quirkiness makes it seem plausible, i.e., why would she fabricate such a detail?? why??? It is not what would occur to anyone making up a story about this kind of thing.

I don’t see any reason to suppose that someone reached by phone in a neighboring store while the shooter might still be around the area would care to fabricate such an account. What possible motive could she have to make up such a story??? It’s far too simple to be the work of a scheming mind.


79 posted on 07/23/2016 5:19:02 PM PDT by Enchante (Hillary's new campaign slogan: "Guilty as hell, free as a bird!! Laws are for peasants!")
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To: GJones2

re: inside vs outside the McDonalds, probably both

The short video we have all seen, in front of the McDonalds, certainly does not show bodies all over the place. We are told that he shot 36 people (9 dead and 27 wounded are the figures I have seen). It certainly did not look like he shot 36 people in front of the McDonalds. Probably there was shooting inside as well as outside.


80 posted on 07/23/2016 5:22:23 PM PDT by Enchante (Hillary's new campaign slogan: "Guilty as hell, free as a bird!! Laws are for peasants!")
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To: GJones2

Arguing with you is a waste of time.. self-important YOU
have it ALL figured out. The girl *may well be a liar;
DOH (Daughter of Hillary). I’m sick of Hussein Obama’s
lie after lie after lie after lie. I HATE THAT DAMNED
LYING!!!!!


81 posted on 07/23/2016 7:55:22 PM PDT by Twinkie (JOHN 3:16)
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To: GJones2

DOUBTFUL he shouted “allah Akbar”?!!!!!!
- These days, it’s MORE DOUBTFUL he didn’t holler
“allah Akbar”!!!!


87 posted on 07/24/2016 8:41:54 AM PDT by Twinkie (JOHN 3:16)
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