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To: nopardons

I proved no such thing.

The views and beliefs of the public shaped the choices of the first leaders. The Constitution just wasn’t imposed top-down by autocrats. The leaders had the people to be accountable to. They weren’t their dictators and couldn’t have just imposed one religion sect as a state religion.

And I know all about that the colonists’ were split on supporting England versus supporting revolution. That isn’t the topic.

And I have never disputed that the first leaders were of the elite class. But I do dispute that they are essentially being given the credit for being the entire original U.S., and its only founders, versus all the little men and women who had beliefs and fought for them, too, and whose beliefs certainly influenced the form of our government.


3,687 posted on 07/24/2016 7:58:32 PM PDT by Faith Presses On (Above all, politics should serve the Great Commission, "preparing the way for the Lord.")
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To: Faith Presses On

i don’t think it was a big deal. They were mostly all Protestants.

Here is what George Washington says in his Farewell Address:

“With slight shades of difference, you have the same religion, manners, habits, and political principles. You have in a common cause fought and triumphed together; the independence and liberty you possess are the work of joint counsels, and joint efforts of common dangers, sufferings, and successes.”

He says it beautifully. SLIGHT SHADES OF DIFFRENCE.
aka No Big Deal between the denominations.

The fact that this nation is comprised of citizens other than those described above, is the reason for losing our cohesiveness.

That’s all I wanted to share about this.
Thank you.


3,690 posted on 07/24/2016 8:14:43 PM PDT by Right-wing Librarian (God's Chosen Warriors vs. Satan's Chosen Warrior: The choice couldn't be more clear.)
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To: Faith Presses On
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.....that's WHY slavery was allowed, because the "little people in the South were the slave owners! LOL

All of the "little people" texted Jefferson and told him what to write! ROTFLMSO !

You imagine that EVERYONE back then was "holy", behaved well, and believe whatever the bleeding hell you do? You're delusional! Franklin was a lousy husband and worse father. Jefferson was a spendthrift...on money he didn't have and expected his friend to pay his bills, Poor Hamilton was seduced and then blackmailed, Burr was a very nasty POS, and those "little people", whose lives you really don't know about...were just like people of today. Man doesn't change, only technology changes!

3,694 posted on 07/24/2016 10:07:29 PM PDT by nopardons
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