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To: DarthVader

I think your analysis is sound. After Erdogan starts murdering thousands of Turks, Putin can play the role of good guy by condemning Erdogan for human rights violations and unleashing the Russian dogs and its allies. Erdogan, I think, really messed up by kicking the Russian bear. As others have speculated, I predict a bloody Turkish civil war in the near future.


24 posted on 07/16/2016 3:22:21 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

And sooner than we think. I bet in a month or two. Just enough time for these situations to materialize. Putin has a hard-on for both Erdogan and Obama as he has been stating their duplicity with ISIS . He wants to relegate them both to the dustbin of history. This will also scare the hell out of Tehran and it will make Vladimir Putin’s Russia the undisputed leader of the world and the supreme super-power.


29 posted on 07/16/2016 3:47:41 PM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: sergeantdave; DarthVader; All

An oldie/goldie article by Seymour Hersh.
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n08/seymour-m-hersh/the-red-line-and-the-rat-line

I haven’t read this thread so someone may already have brought this up, but since Obama and Erdogan have been working together to arm “Syrian rebels” (a.k.a. al quaeda/ISIS) for a while now, it makes one think this recent military coup in Turkey has our fingerprints all over it, doesn’t it? Like someone (one of you?) said already, this “failed coup” will give Erdogan an excuse to strengthen his hardline theocratic hold on Turkey, making it just another Islamic-run nation in a long line of Islamic-run nations to rise since Hussein Obama took office.

What a cozy little relationship our pResident has with Ergodan. So when do we kick Turkey out of NATO? When someone like Putin pushes Obama on it? (Why do I keep imagining that Putin and other world leaders can’t wait until a grown-azz adult moves back into our White House?)

Wasn’t it convenient that Erdogan was out of the country? All obama/jarrett had to do is get our cia ops in there, plan a flawed coup that would fail, all the while making the Turkey military think it was their own idea. When SHTF, our cia instigators get out of the country, knowing the coup will “fail” and a bunch of military & secular, constitutional judges in Turkey would soon have their bodies separated from their heads.

And then... Voila! Obama/Jarrett have themselves another jihadist, murderous theocracy in the middle east after the dust settles. It’s just a continuation of Obama’s Arab Spring that has wrecked the entire middle east.

What a mess. Trump/Pence can’t get here soon enough.


31 posted on 07/16/2016 4:08:25 PM PDT by Nita Nupress ("We can't fix a rigged system with the people who rigged it." (Donald J. Trump - June 7, 2016)
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