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To: Lil Flower; kabar
They all were aware and wanted a shadow State Dept.

Exactly - that is the conclusion I raised. Hillary, et al are/were working within official US foreign & domestic policy objectives. Anyone at any responsible level of government - be it Dem or Rep, politician or bureaucrat, military or intelligence - is on board. Her malfeasance is simply the skim off an extremely large organization; her criminal activities merely a side show, not a rogue operation.

What no one dare reveal to the average US citizen-on-the-street is the reason behind the many faceted strategy:

- suppress/turn Russia to the west
- control/dictate MENA resources
- dilute/displace US/EU populations

The reason is energy. We've had surplus for 250 years - a mere blip in time. (After all, we're all products of scarcity ie those who survived thousands of generations of scratching out survival.)

We are now turning, have turned, back to limits, to scarcity, to constriction of economic activity. The problem is, whereas there were always wars over territory & resources since we were proto-ape/humans - culminating in the largest, most destructive from 1939-1945 - we can no longer afford the risks given the wide spread nature of WMDs.

Agenda 21 lays it all out. The people of the earth must all hang together, or we'll hang separately. But how could any one leader sell that message to their home nation, much less reach agreement/coordination among many?

It's impossible, can't be done. People are just too tribal in nature to change to adapt to this reality. So that's the reason for the subterfuge. It's why everything is coordinated between central banks, finance & global trade.

It's also why the global ruling elite are willing to allow people to vent on both the right & left, like FR. It appears that people who get exercised about what is happening in plain sight simply cannot warp their heads around the bigger picture. They are locked into old ways of thinking, such as right & wrong, national interest, demographic blocks, etc

Where humanity is going, quaint notions born of surplus are luxuries that can no longer be afforded. It's rather telling that so many cannot look beyond what they are seeing to stitch together the "why".

1,156 posted on 07/07/2016 3:13:41 PM PDT by semantic
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To: semantic
We are now turning, have turned, back to limits, to scarcity, to constriction of economic activity.

Presumably you are just repeating the reasoning behind the NWO, but the above statement is complete crap. We have the highest reserves of oil and most other things in history. We have the highest global agriculture production with steady linear growth. Scarcity would be a convenient excuse were it not a myth.

1,163 posted on 07/07/2016 3:39:32 PM PDT by palmer (Net "neutrality" = Obama turning the internet over to foreign enemies)
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