Posted on 06/28/2016 7:52:08 AM PDT by milton23
Waaaa, they didn’t cooperate.
Trey, do you have any authority to do anything or not? If so, then do something about it and start arresting people. If not, GTFO and stop wasting everyone’s time.
Benghazi ping.
Let Republicanprofessor know if you want on or off this ping list.
"2-Year Panel on Benghazi Ends, Finding No New Fault by Clinton"
What about OLD fault ?
From what I heard today, it STILL comes down to Cross-Border Authority and WHERE WAS OBAMA?
That’s why the “final report” talked about the question of not getting a rescue force moving until the “govt. of Libya” (LOL) approved it. Should we send them to Tripoli? Should we send them to Benghazi? We need to ask the Libyan government, but who is in charge??
Only the POTUS could just give this direct order to the DOD and DOS: “forget about getting ‘Libyan approval,’ JUST MOVE THE RESCUE FORCES NOW! CBA is granted, here’s my written order, NOW MOVE!”
If Obama didn’t give CBA, then the DOS wasted all those hours wrangling over who to get “Libyan approval” from.
For the Osama Bin Ladin raid in Pakistan, Obama granted CBA. (And he stayed up to watch the results) We did the OBL raid without getting approval from Pakistan.
But that required CBA from POTUS, and only POTUS can grant CBA. Having the DOS wasting hours getting approval from the “government of Libya” (sic) is not the same as getting CBA.
That’s why Obama’s location that night is so critical, and that question is still unanswered. (My guess is he was hiding in the family quarters in order not to be pinned down to grant or
deny CBA.)
Remember, an Ambassador is equal in rank to a 4-star general. An ambassador possibly captured and in the hands of an AQ-affiliated jihadist group is a MAJOR crisis, much more dangerous to national security than the loss of four American lives, (as happens every time a helicopter crashes or some Afghan “ally” frags some U.S. soldiers).
But Obama hid, instead of leading the charge from the situation room!
I wrote this article a few weeks after Benghazi. It used to have a ton of comments, but PJMedia re-archived their old stuff and they were lost.
Benghazi’s Smoking Gun? Only President Can Give ‘Cross-Border Authority’
https://pjmedia.com/blog/benghazis-smoking-gun-only-president-can-give-‘cross-border-authority’/
4:21 pm / 10:21 pm —The White House Situation Room convenes a meeting.
After seeking refuge, one of the agents in Villa B then contacted the TOC in Tripoli and the other agent contacted the State Department’s Diplomatic Security Command Center[DSCC] in Washington D.C. at 9:49 p.m. Benghazi time[3:49 p.m. in Washington, DC].
Although the Embassy in Tripoli and the Diplomatic Command Center at the State Department in Washington received word almost immediately that the Benghazi Mission compound was under attack, that notice did not make its way to the National Military Command Center, the operations center at the Pentagon, until 4:32 p.m. local time in Washington D.C.
Just minutes after word of the attack reached the Secretary, he and General Martin E.Dempsey, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, departed the Pentagon to attend a previously scheduled 5:00 p.m. meeting at the White House with President Obama and National Security Advisor Thomas E. Donilon. The Secretary recalled two details about the attack on the U.S. facility in Benghazi: a building was on fire and Stevens was missing. As the Secretary and Dempsey briefed the President on the evolving situation in Benghazi, Libya, the Secretary recalls the following guidance: The President made clear that we ought to use all of the resources at our disposal to try to make sure we did everything possible to try to save lives there.
bkmk
My personal opinion on this entire nightmare, is that the repuicants ie McCain et al, are in up their eyeballs on this weapon movement business...that to me is the only reason Gowdy slammed on the brakes.
They ALL make me ill, bunch of freakin selfish you know whats
Why?
There were no assets available because they didn’t want them there! Stand down orders? BS! We are dealing with the Democrat/Media Body Guard of lies. Stevens wasn’t suppose to be killed, Woods and Doughty weren’t suppose to be there. The mob was there to kidnap Stevens, there were no armed personnel there, if it was a drop off for weapons, why didn’t anyone use them? A pincer attack with heavy weapon support was no spontaneous uprising, it was a pre-planned attack. There was to be no resistance, just a show of strength by the opposing force, which turned into a battle when 2 ex seals went to the rescue. Notice how the Press covered the request to release Sheikh Rahman by Mursi in June of 2012? (Cherp, cherp, cherp) How does one get to release a WTC Bomber without public dissent that close to an election? I’m not alone in this thinking, many of my cohort military guys see it as a very devious move by those who we grant power. Do I trust anyone in the most open administration? Hell no.
Blah Blah.. blah blah blah,, blah blah
When the TALKING is over and they're all finished blowing to the galleries.. NOT one damn thing will be done about it.
Same old Kabuki theater.
Not to mention a base in Italy could have had F16s there in 20 minutes.
Some one set them up the Al-Qaeda bomb!
No one was supposed to come out alive.
It is also interesting that no one seems to have brought this up in the Benghazi hearings, or any of the other investigations or in the MSM.
You certainly shouldn't believe that. There are in-extremis forces that train constantly for no other purpose than embassy rescues...
Here is a video of Rep. Chaffetz saying that Gen. Ham, commander of AFRICOM at that time, told him that assets were near enough to help and ready to go.There is no doubt whatsoever that the assets were in motion preparing to receive an order to go.AFRICOM leader General Carter Ham was never given the order to secure the consulate in Benghazi. Youtube 1:43
Adm. James Lyons (Ret.) on Growing Benghazi Scandal
ADMIRAL LYONS: …All those comforting words that “We don’t want to put our forces at risk.” We had people at risk—they were crying for help! In a situation, you go with the resources you have available—and, in this particular case, we did have that 130-man Marine force recon team sitting there at Sigonella. Even if I only got 50 of them over there, that would have been significant in turning the situation around. We may not have been able to save the ambassador, but we certainly could have saved those other two SEALs that were over on the annex.
ADMIRAL LYONS: In perpetuating this lie, we also had administration officials lying to Congressional committees. That’s a felony. So, “What difference does it make?” It makes all the difference in the world. You cannot flaunt the truth here, just walk away from it and, basically, tell the American public to stuff it. That’s not acceptable.
The point on the organizing the two Marine anti-terrorist teams in Rota, that was good to go ahead and stand ’em up. What I find incomprehensible: The first team, it took them 23 hours to go a few hundred miles from Rota to Tripoli. I could go around the world in 23 hours, so that makes absolutely no sense to me.
The following three links are to posts written by Travis McGee, a FReeper and a former Navy SEAL who used to be on one of those in-extremis teams.
And you know who originated that rumor? A leftist activist group of queers in Chicago.
Good info. Thanks.
You’re more than welcome.
Everything 0bama and Hillary have said about Benghazi are lies
and there is more than enough in the public realm to
thoroughly prove they are lies. They both committed treason
beyond any shadow of a doubt.
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