[UKrepublican]

I appreciate what you say but feel there is a world of difference between the two situations.

We won’t have another referendum for years - by then we will have been so diluted, and EU will have expanded in every way - it will be over for us, or at best generations of people will be confined to suffering.

[naturalman1975]

As somebody who has lived extensively in both countries, I can't see much difference at all. To me the situations are broadly equivalent.

In Australia we traditionalists and conservatives managed to hold the line in 1999, so it's the socialists and progressives who won't accept the verdict.

In the UK, it may have to be the other way around.

Maybe you won't win. Maybe this will be the end. But that's only true if you decide it is to begin with.

England has almost died time and time again. Britain has almost died time and time again. It has always come back.

But it it doesn't, on its own behalf, then I still think the EU will collapse in the end.

[CottonBall]

“We won’t have another referendum for years - by then we will have been so diluted, and EU will have expanded in every way - it will be over for us, or at best generations of people will be confined to suffering.”

Sounds just like the US should Trump not prevail.

We live in scary times for the common people.