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They Don't Want Your AR-15: They Want Everything
Townhall.com ^ | June 18, 2016 | Alan Korwin

Posted on 06/18/2016 4:29:39 AM PDT by Kaslin

The “news” media is ranting the democrats familiar song, after a muslim jihadi committed atrocities in a gay nightclub: “We must ban the AR-15, a weapon of war, it has no place in the public’s hands. Why does anyone need an AR-15 to murder Bambi?”

It doesn’t matter to the “fair and balanced“ media that the mass murderer (not “gunman,” a deliberate derogatory sexist slur against men—and guns) didn’t use or even have an AR-15.

It doesn’t matter that banning the AR-15 would have zero effect on what was done, or what the next jihad assault will do. All that matters is that murders create political capital and useful propaganda that influence useful idiots to press Congress to act against the Constitution. And they do. For shame.

What democrats and anti-rights bigots want is to ban all effective weapons in American hands. Without realizing it (maybe) they pursue marxist goals of making the public subservient to the government boot. It is the exact opposite of why the Second Amendment is in the Constitution in the first place: It’s there to balance federal power.

Ever since the so-called Gun Control Act of 1968, when officials could get all the machine guns they wanted, but you and I could only get single-shot rifles like the AR-15, we have been subarmed. The balance of power flipped decisively to government.

That’s why you see the atrocious federal leviathan that concerns everyone. Even the ACLU is worried about how much federal power has grown. Mao was right. Power comes from the barrel of a gun. All I have is the barrel of a pen. Ain’t much of a match.

Democrats and their sycophantic media allies have been down this road before. They’re yelling about the AR-15, but when the bills come out—mark my words—the AR will not be the only gun in the bill. Every black gun known will be included. They hate black guns. They barely understand guns at all, but if they’re big and black, they hate ‘em. Listen, it’s not good to hate.

Ours only fire one shot at a time, and are all we have left. Antis think they’re machine guns, but they took those from us back in 1968. They know nothing, but that doesn’t matter to hoplophobes—people with morbid gun fear who desperately need but never seek treatment.

In their last bill, Diane Feinstein’s, they listed guns in a 90-page catalog, but that was a trick to throw you off. You think this bill will go backwards and list fewer? That bill, in fine print, broadly included guns with anything that could serve as a grip. I know, it sounds impossible, but I read these things. With a little subtle maneuvering, that’s what they did, the list was a smokescreen, didn’t matter, since any gun has grips, so you can pick it up and hold it. That’s how these people operate. So-called reporters promoted the talking points (“Save the children!”) not the actual proposal (“Take all the guns!”). The so-called background program was a gun-registration scheme, again misreported.

Then bigots yell at the NRA for blocking “reasonable common sense bills.” They are nothing of the sort. And of course, banning the AR-15—the finest rifle made in America, the choice of police who are otherwise outgunned against the exact same criminals people face—would have no effect against jihadis. It would just disarm us. The jihadis can’t bear anything, legally. Hillary, Obama, all their allies, they know this. They’re knowingly lying to your face, to disarm you.

And this no-fly lie? The Constitution cannot (legitimately) be suspended by putting anyone’s name on a list. If you’re so bad you can’t fly to Cincinnati, why are you still out walking around? Why can you take a train or bus there? You should be charged with something before your rights can be summarily removed. You should have due process. Those are blazing red lines no serving politician should ever cross. Any politician who votes to remove your rights by simply writing down your name is by definition a tyrant who must be removed from office. Who writes down your name? A federal police force acting in secret. Secret police list. In America?

If Americans are subarmed, limited to bolt-action wood guns, or some other total infringement that leaves America in a completely unbalanced state, the shining light of freedom will have been extinguished. The jihadis will have won. With asymmetrical warfare underway, we should be teaching Americans how to shoot, and arming them better, not passing laws to confiscate their guns.

Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, they know this road. They are teaching people about how to shoot. Look:


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To: philman_36

Role Player’s,,


41 posted on 06/18/2016 6:23:18 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: wrench

When I was flying low level & doing nap of the earth iterations, our worst nightmare was a wire strike. Even a small power line could foul the main rotors & bring it down chop-chop. Harder to spot than the big wires.

And much less than a .50 cal can destroy a tail rotor gearbox or make it run dry & then seize.

HVAC guy was here yesterday. His Dad flew Cobras in VN & had two shot down. I flew Hueys and was more fortunate.

Helicopters have always been vulnerable to small arms fire especially in slow flight.


42 posted on 06/18/2016 6:25:10 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: ought-six
Once they reinstated the assault weapons ban, they then will move on high capacity handguns. The anti-gunners will whittle down what types of weapons we may be allowed little by little.

Then there will be a shooting that involves a pump shotgun and 00buckshot and six rounds. Twenty or so folks will be hurt or killed. Then they will mandate non-removable plugs for shotguns and only birdshot.

It will not stop until they have achieved their goals...unarmed Americans.

43 posted on 06/18/2016 6:31:25 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: elcid1970

My understanding from a flippy wing pilot is while flying at night with NVGs, power lines show as glowing lines in the dark, UNLESS the power to them has been cut. Then they are invisible.


44 posted on 06/18/2016 6:31:26 AM PDT by wrench
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To: 2nd Amendment; All

When I was with the Tropic Test Center in Panama, we did some tests with caching weapons, equipment and ammo.

Burying did not work well. I know a person who buried a couple of rifles as described. He used PVC and copious grease. They ended up as rusted junk after 10 years. (Temperate climate) If you must cache a rifle, find someplace above ground to do it. We found that storage in tree (in tropical rainforest) worked best. If nothing above ground is available, try to find an animal burrow where the storage case has airflow around it.

If it is time to bury, it may be time to use the rifle.


45 posted on 06/18/2016 6:42:57 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: wastoute; Lazamataz

Yes, it was 1934, not 1968. Alan is usually quite good about that sort of thing. But we all make mistakes.

Disclaimer: Alan has been a personal friend for over 20 years.


46 posted on 06/18/2016 6:46:30 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: wrench

Wow! Never knew that about NVGs & wires. I retired from flying before NVG training came along (we flew `nighthawk’ using the naked eye).

As a miltech I serviced lots of NVGs.

Stationed in Germany in early 1980’s (which is why I am banned from donating blood - mad cow), there was no night flying at all. Power lines were everywhere. Daylight you flew directly over the towers. Joke was that if the Soviets attacked their initial artillery barrage would be so heavy per square kilometer that the purpose of all those wires was to hold Germany together.


47 posted on 06/18/2016 6:53:48 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: marktwain

I have a device in my kitchen called a Food Saver. It enables you to seal and safely freeze meat or fish. The machine sucks all the air out and then heat seals the plastic bag. You could seal a pistol but the bags aren’t large enough for a rifle. I can’t imagine why you would want to do that anyway.


48 posted on 06/18/2016 6:54:58 AM PDT by Ditter (God Bless Texas!)
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To: marktwain

Funny. I was scuba diving for lobster in an out of the way place between Portobello and Isla Mamey. “The Sisters” IIRC. 1992 approx.

I found a 2 inch PVC pipe about 6 inches long sealed at both ends with end caps glued in place. Intensely curious when I got home it was with some trepidation I broke it open. I made the kids go inside. It had been packed with grease and a .223 round and a .45 round. IIRC for some reason I felt it had been in the water a year or two from a date inside or something.

The grease had deteriorated badly and the ammo was so corroded I am certain it was useless. I still wonder who did that. Was it one of yours?


49 posted on 06/18/2016 6:55:20 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Ditter

The plastic comes in rolls that you can use to seal a rifle.
I suggest double bagging and include oxygen scavengers.


50 posted on 06/18/2016 7:01:31 AM PDT by Kozak (ALLAH AKBAR = HEIL HITLER)
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To: marktwain

I forgive him if he gets me a date with his sister.


51 posted on 06/18/2016 7:02:09 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Chuck Norris finally met his match in Donald Trump.)
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To: wrench

And a few yards of barbed wire and some cinder blocks will pull the tread from a tank. With no tread a tank is a pillbox. A pill box with no infantry is a tomb.


52 posted on 06/18/2016 7:05:46 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Kozak

I buy the plastic bags in rolls, do you think a rifle would fit in the widest one? You would have to remove the scope and bag it separately. Have you tried this? I have only bagged food for the freezer.


53 posted on 06/18/2016 7:07:15 AM PDT by Ditter (God Bless Texas!)
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To: Kaslin

***the AR will not be the only gun in the bill.***

How true! The libs have been on an anti-military kick since 1962 when Thomas J Dodd and Emanuel Cellar called for registration of handguns (”Long guns will not be affected”) AND a ban on the import of 5 shot bolt action army surplus rifles.
In the 1970s the libs decided American made military style rifles were A-OK and said so in many a TV script, that they were allowed by the Miller Decision of the SCOTUS while HANDGUNS were not.

After Reagan was shot, Hand gun Control Inc (HCI, now Brady Center) or another anti group, released a statement that they “ONLY wanted to control HANDGUNS, RIFLES would not be affected!”
Then four years later, while all eyes were on protecting handguns they made the first grab for semi-auto rifles and shotguns.

Please notice they are not going after revolvers as they were back in the 1970s. They are after anything semi-auto.
Around the year 2000, they made a grab for single shot large caliber rifles.
Oh, by the way, those “evil” 5 shot bolt action army surplus rifles are now back on the market. Seems they weren’t as “evil” as claimed. Dodd and Cellar demonized the import of those rifles in the 1960s to protect their own local industries of Winchester, Remington and Savage. Now the anti-gunners are trying to destroy those industries.

NEVER GIVE AN INCH!


54 posted on 06/18/2016 7:07:41 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

“Sometimes a Great Notion”. THE great American novel. NEVER GIVE AN INCH.


55 posted on 06/18/2016 7:11:01 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: marktwain

During WW2 rice was used to bury things, in Phillipines...not sure how well it worked


56 posted on 06/18/2016 7:12:03 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Alinsky.....it's what's for dinner: with Cloward Piven for Dessert)
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To: wastoute
The 1934 bill was originally supposed to list handguns as taxable($200.00) like machine guns and sawed off shotguns. the belief by those in Congress was that common rifles were better for home protection than handguns.

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57 posted on 06/18/2016 7:13:18 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Kozak

The current “assault rifle ban” in California originally had all LEVER ACTION RIFLES on their “to be banned” list. It appears some in Cali were living in fear of a Henry Rifle suddenly going on a rampage.


58 posted on 06/18/2016 7:17:25 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: marktwain

I read that when the Philippines fell to the Japs, General Wainright had a Colt .45 revolver that he hid. It was smothered in grease, covered in cloth and hidden way above ground in the crotch of a tree out of view from the ground. When it was recovered years later, it was well rusted up.

On the other hand, Jesse James hid a black powder handgun in a large jar full of rendered hog lard and it survived being buried very well.


59 posted on 06/18/2016 7:23:26 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: wastoute

Yes, an immobile piece of armor is usually a tomb. Sometimes it works the other way:

Second Lieutenant Audie L. Murphy, 01692509, 15th Infantry, Army of the United States, on 26 January 1945, near Holtzwihr, France, commanded Company B, which was attacked by six tanks and waves of infantry. Lieutenant Murphy ordered his men to withdraw to a prepared position in a woods while he remained forward at his command post and continued to give fire directions to the artillery by telephone. Behind him to his right one of our tank destroyers received a direct hit and began to burn. It’s crew withdrew to the woods. Lieutenant Murphy continued to direct artillery fire which killed large numbers of the advancing enemy infantry. With the enemy tanks abreast of his position, Lieutenant Murphy climbed on the burning tank destroyer which was in danger of blowing up any instant and employed its .50 caliber machine gun against the enemy. He was alone and exposed to the German fire from three sides, but his deadly fire killed dozens of Germans and caused their infantry attack to waver. the enemy tanks, losing infantry support, began to fall back. For an hour the Germans tried every available weapon to eliminated Lieutenant Murphy, but he continued to hold his position and wiped out a squad which was trying to creep up unnoticed on his right flank. Germans reached as close as 10 yards only to be mowed down by his fire. He received a leg wound but ignored it and continued the single-handed fight until his ammunition was exhausted. He then made his way to his company, refused medical attention, and organized the company in a counterattack which forced the Germans to withdraw. His directing of artillery fire wiped out many of the enemy; he personally killed or wounded about 50. Lieutenant Murphy’s indomitable courage and his refusal to give an inch of ground saved his company from possible encirclement and destruction and enabled it to hold the woods which had been the enemy’s objective.


60 posted on 06/18/2016 7:25:04 AM PDT by wrench
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