Posted on 06/17/2016 6:48:45 AM PDT by Lorianne
True.
I don’t think the cops knew what he looked like. If he came out of the bathroom with guns blazing then they know who to shoot. But if several come out at the same time they have no idea who the bad guy is.
And, I’m not a fan of the cops.
These are probably ly the “second shooter” that people have brought up. Wouldn’t doubt it at all.
But the only AR15s on scene were carried by the cops.
= = =
Now you have gone and got all technical on us.
The killer self identified his Sig as an AR-15, though.
Criticism of the OPD for not being perfect during those two periods shows ignorance of the mechanics of firefights in such awful situations, and is very unfair to the officers during their duty.
Where the OPD really needs to be called out is for failure to engage once the SWAT team had deployed with the Bearcat. That let the perp roam around murdering victims who hadn't gotten out yet.
That was a command failure, and very indicative of a senior officer afraid to make a decision. Blame him, not the patrolmen and sergeants.
Even the French breached the concert shooting with armor and shields.
I have seen breaching charges used first hand. Total incompetence to make an unusable hole - no excuses just incompetence.
Yeah - try to blame the cops - if they hadn’t showed up the guy wouldn’t have killed anyone else and would have miraculously healed those he had already killed....
Gee, if only one of those patrons actually had a gun.
I wonder what the reaction would have been had the shooter been killed by a patron with a gun? What would all of those folks blasting the NRA have said?
Transgun-ual.
The gun had a type-change surgery.
Which are you saying - that they 'would' or 'would not' have been justified in shooting in the latter case?
Maternity did not use an AR-15.
Firefight with hostages running chaotically....not a surprise
“Personally, I’d like to see a detailed accounting of how many police rounds were expended in this melee, and exactly what type of bullets they were using.”
Just like Waco, autopsies will tell “authorities” just who shot whom in Orlando. but also like Waco, we citizens probably will not end up knowing the truth about whose bullet(s) kiilled the innocents.
I’m saying all hell would break loose if they started firing into a crowd hoping to hit the suspect. Cops are not supposed to shoot like terrorists. Not saying some don’t.
No kidding since that hasn’t been part of the story at all. There was an off duty cop and maybe two patrol guys who engaged as he was trying to edit building.....maybe Mateen wanted to hit Pulse run away, enjoy his fame, and attack again another dy
I think his plan was interrupted
Without more evidence, I believe you have it exactly right. A three hour standoff with a know active shooter is way too long a delay. The cops essentially could have taken over the main part of the club almost immediately and at least begun to rescue the wounded while keeping the perp corralled, and then tracking him down. Situation over in an hour, not three.
The more I read about this terror attack, the more convinced I am that the Keystone Kops are in charge.
One good shot who was armed could have dispatched this
MUSLIM TERRORIST to his imagined scores of perpetual
virgins in his Mohammed “Paradise” BEFORE he killed so
many.
But please don’t call them a standing army, even though they’ve declared war on just about every thing except the population. There’s that lil oppressive constitution that forces them to call themselves, and their conflict something else.
Nothing that you say matters before you say "but",
Before you jump on the BLM bandwagon, why don't you accept that we don't have smart bullets that can differentiate between the good guys and bad guys or that the terrorist came through the wall, among the innocent crowd, with guns blazing.
collateral damage is a terrible term, but it is a reality.
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