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To: MNJohnnie
Just because it is uncomfortable doesn't mean it is a diversion.

It should be clear from a review of my comments that I am LDS/Mormon. We are frequently told we are not Christian because we believe in a different Christ - specifically, that we do not believe in a Trinity. Seems to me that the folks saying we are not Christian must believe that the God of the Old Testament is the same as Christ. If you are Christian, then by definition you must believe that Jesus Christ and the God of the Old Testament is the same entity.

Which is ironic, in a way, since Mormons believe that the God of the Old Testament is Christ.

But what I have been driving at with my posts is that there is a lot of gut-reaction "muslims are evil because their book says ..." But by a similar measure, believers in the Old Testament have the same kind of issues.

We need to be more mature in our discussion points. It is clear that modern Christians are on the whole a lot better behaved. And a good part of that is the core philosophy of Christ's teachings, which can be boiled down to "love your neighbor." It would appear that there is no equivalent to this in muslim's core teachings.

But to say their holy book condones violence while ignoring that our holy book has a bit of that, too, is poor technique, and leads to a flawed discussion. Or, as you say, a diversion.

83 posted on 06/17/2016 9:18:45 AM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: T. P. Pole
The one "uncomfortable" one here, is you.

That is why you are so desperately bobbing and weaving in a vain attempt to duck the question. Once you specifically answer my point, then the discussion we can proceed. You do NOT get to avoid the question.

Answer the question.

The leader of Islam, Mohammad, directed, and par took in, the rape and murder of innocents. Provide an example in Christianity where Jesus Christ directed, or took part, in similar acts

85 posted on 06/17/2016 12:37:14 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: T. P. Pole

Mormons believe that Jesus is half brother of Lucifer, the Devil.

That’s blasphemy.

They do NOT believe in the Jesus of the NT. They believe in one of their deluded leader’s imaginations.


93 posted on 06/21/2016 3:01:37 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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