A stinger won’t reach that altitude. Only a large missile fired from a big boat. When they are fired from a ship everyone on the ship knows it. They also work by proximity fuse so they frag the crap out of the target. They get close and explode peppering the target with fragmentation that leaves very distinct marks.
Everyone on the Navy ship (and in the chain of command) as well as everyone who investigated it (numerous agencies) as well as those who recovered the pieces (Coast Guard and Port Authority) would have to be sworn to silence.
Conspiracy theories always have an answer - it’s more conspiracy or more people who are sworn to silence. Once you are outside of one agency and a small circle of people it would be extraordinarily difficult if not impossible to keep such a secret. Every sailor, every investigator, every person even remotely associated with such an event remaining silent the rest of their lives?
Keep in mind that many of those in the hanger with the recovered pieces were not agency employees nor were they sworn to secrecy.
This is what a SAM strike looks like on an A-10 -
https://daliamaelachlan.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/comparison-from-sam-missile.jpg
SAM’s fired from Navy ships are likely just as (or more) powerful. I am not a forensic scientist, but this appears to be a whole lot of evidence on the aircraft as to what happened.......
Seems like a bridge too far to me.
But everybody doesn't know what it hit. If they were told that it hit a target drone as intended and the Navy would discipline any sailors making public speculations to the contrary, nobody would say anything and only a very few crew members would know the truth.
A stinger won’t reach that altitude.
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Stinger, no Stinger, I’m not a military analyst. What altitude was it supposed to reach?
All I know is what I posted before. We gave Stingers out like they were Halloween candy to the Mujaheddin in Afghanistan. After our gracious assistance in getting the Soviets out, Bin Laden et al decided we were stomping all over their holy ground.
The only analysis I can do is armchair detective work. That involves M.O.M. - Motive, Opportunity, Means.
Stomping on holy ground and listening to Bin Laden and terrorist imams. Motive.
If the terrorists could be here to do 9/11, and the first WTC attack before that, then they could certainly have been here to coordinate an attack like the one I proposed on TWA Flight 800. Opportunity.
MANPAD on a fishing boat. Means.
The REAL detective work was done by Sanders and friendly parties. The best evidence that he was onto something detrimental to the Clinton administration was his treatment by Gorelick, Kallstrom, et al.
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Conspiracy theories always have an answer - it’s more conspiracy or more people who are sworn to silence. Once you are outside of one agency and a small circle of people it would be extraordinarily difficult if not impossible to keep such a secret. Every sailor, every investigator, every person even remotely associated with such an event remaining silent the rest of their lives?
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They swear Navy personnel to secrecy upon enlistment. Otherwise, the phone picture from a couple of weeks ago would not have been such a big deal.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/kristian-saucier-investigation-hillary-clinton-223646
Let’s not go into “conspiracy theory” garbage, shall we? We know enough about Clinton’s and Obama’s lies to not doubt any bad thing attributed to them.
In 2008, we were told it was a “conspiracy theory” that single payer healthcare was going to be a goal of Obama’s.
In the early 1990s, it was implied that it was a “conspiracy theory” to believe Hillary wanted to be President.
I could go on and on with “conspiracy theories” that turned out to be real conspiracies, but that’s useless here. If you believe there is no such thing as a governmental conspiracy, no matter how small or large, then I’m wasting time and effort, and you’ll see and be shocked, SHOCKED when some predicted things come to pass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME
Part 1 of 11 - TWA Flight 800
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKYoEFa4lY0
(I haven’t watched a lot of this, I plan to tonight now that we have a thread on it - I did read Sanders’s first book though)
There were plenty of small SAM systems in 1996, both shoulder fired and small vehicle mounted, which were capable of reaching a B747 target at that altitude. For example, here’s open source data for the SA-16 GIMLET aka IGLA, which was available at the time, capable of TWA 800’s altitude, and used an impact warhead.
http://www.armyrecognition.com/russia_russian_army_light_heavy_weapons_uk/sa-16_gimlet_9k310_igla-1_man-portable_missile_technical_data_sheet_specifications_pictures.html.
The missile you present, the Stinger, is late 1960s technology.
You said: A stinger won’t reach that altitude. Only a large missile fired from a big boat. When they are fired from a ship everyone on the ship knows it. They also work by proximity fuse so they frag the crap out of the target. They get close and explode peppering the target with fragmentation that leaves very distinct marks.
