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To: OA5599
Okay we have the P3 flying so close to a 747 that the explosion hit it.

P3 was supposedly towing a drone nearby, presumably at a lower altitude and slower than the 747. Missile decides the 747 is a preferable target, streaks by the drone and takes out the 747. Dummy warhead means that the plane breaks apart from mechanical stresses as its falling. Radar indicates it finally explodes at 7500 feet, where it is now close enough to the P3 for parts of the explosion to damage the P3 props. P3 is still in the area to observe the catastrophe as it happened.

FBI counting missiles on submarines, but not the PCU submarine that allegedly shot the plane down after completing an unspecified sea trial.

Missiles were experimental new tech, did not look like torpedoes. No torpedo was fired, all present and accounted for. Top secret missile tech non of FBIs business, not divulged to them - or, the only missile onboard was the one fired for the test, so it was already gone without ever affecting the normal missile and torpedo count.

SEAL teams planting evidence.

Now that's a stumper. Who could ever imagine a SEAL team doing such a thing, what with all their daily prayer services and feeding of the homeless.

And some goofball standing on the "deck" of a submarine directly under flight 800 like it's a WW2 sub running along on the surface or something.

As it was supposedly a test, such a goofball might well have been a captain in his conning tower, or even a conning tower video camera placed underneath to photograph the missile striking the drone for later analysis of the tracking software efficiency.

This is amazing.

Actually, it was, since they ended up shooting down a 747.

Well I do like the Seawolf angle. Of course it's the Seawolf. Most advanced and secret sub. Great for conspiracies. Not even commissioned yet and shooting down planes.

Exactly - perfect still-being-tested platform for deniability if there was a screwup, like, oh, shooting down a 747.

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Look, once you get rid of 1) the ridiculous center fuel tank spontaneously exploding for the first and only time in 747 history, and 2) you acknowledge that hundreds of people saw a missile rise up and hit the plane, and 3) the fact that a big naval exercise involving the Aegis area combat integration system was taking place at the same time, the explanation is hardly difficult or mysterious.

382 posted on 06/16/2016 2:30:04 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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383 posted on 06/16/2016 3:04:33 PM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: Talisker
P3 was supposedly towing a drone nearby, presumably at a lower altitude and slower than the 747. Missile decides the 747 is a preferable target, streaks by the drone and takes out the 747. Dummy warhead means that the plane breaks apart from mechanical stresses as its falling. Radar indicates it finally explodes at 7500 feet, where it is now close enough to the P3 for parts of the explosion to damage the P3 props. P3 is still in the area to observe the catastrophe as it happened.

Drones don't need to be towed. The BQM-74 is the workhorse drone of the navy. It's basically a cruise missile without a warhead.

I knew a navigator on the P-3, but other than that, I don't know a whole lot about them. But I've never heard of them towing targets. Looked on the internet, and can't find a single reference to that capability.

Furthermore, that link said the P-3 was at 20,000 feet, which is well above TWA 800.

Missiles were experimental new tech, did not look like torpedoes. No torpedo was fired, all present and accounted for. Top secret missile tech non of FBIs business, not divulged to them - or, the only missile onboard was the one fired for the test, so it was already gone without ever affecting the normal missile and torpedo count.

I don't really know how federal agencies interact, but I would imagine it would be NCIS here, not the FBI. All I know is that when we lost the 8mm video of Spice World, NCIS came on our ship to investigate.

But c'mon do you really believe that the navy had a contractor create a new type of Top Secret subsurface to air missile (really? Top Secret? Why would it be Top Secret for an anti-aircraft missile?), test fired it in a busy air corridor, shot down a 747 then erased the program's entire existence? I don't.

Now that's a stumper. Who could ever imagine a SEAL team doing such a thing, what with all their daily prayer services and feeding of the homeless.

There are a lot of moving parts to this conspiracy. Now we have SEALs not only willing to fabricate evidence underwater, but able to outsmart metallurgists in the NTSB. Which is rather redundant since either the NTSB is in on the conspiracy or the FBI or the CIA just negated the NTSB's findings. So why even alter the evidence with SEALs in the first place?

As it was supposedly a test, such a goofball might well have been a captain in his conning tower, or even a conning tower video camera placed underneath to photograph the missile striking the drone for later analysis of the tracking software efficiency.

Modern nuclear submarines do not have a conning tower. But perhaps you meant the bridge. Regardless, the video camera is on the periscope mast. No need to surface. Nuclear submarines rarely surface in the open ocean. The shape of the hull makes surface transit rather uncomfortable due to the instability. And more importantly, you just announced yourself as a big ass target.

Actually, it was, since they ended up shooting down a 747.

Not a shred of evidence to back that up. Closest thing you have is witnesses from 10 miles away and further saying they saw a missile come up from below, and that's it. Unless you're some sort of flat Earth type of guy, exactly how far across the horizon do you think you can see?

Exactly - perfect still-being-tested platform for deniability if there was a screwup, like, oh, shooting down a 747.

So the PCU Seawolf has this super Top Secret new missile system working before it even got the tried and true Tomahawk missile system integrated into the BSY-2 Combat Control System? Right, okay.

396 posted on 06/17/2016 8:16:28 AM PDT by OA5599
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