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To: heartwood

Breasts are an objective fact. The affinity men have for breasts is also an objective fact. Giving a subjective judgement for objective fact is incongruous.

It’s the diametrical opposite of “gilding the lily.”


90 posted on 06/11/2016 7:38:45 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: papertyger

It is in no way wrong for men to be interested in breasts. I also understand that more of anything gets more attention - bigger nose, stronger scent, louder noise.

In my opinion, not admitted to by many on FR, it is biologically normal for men to be sexually interested in teenaged girls who have reached puberty.

If we are agreed on that, what is the proper moral way for men to conduct themselves towards women, or as a separate case, minor girls, who sexually interest them? What is the proper way for society to channel the male sexual urge?

Is it moral and proper for a man to shout to a minor girl, a stranger to him, “Shake it baby!” Is it proper for a man to approach a minor girl and claim that he is doing a health survey on women with large breasts?

Is it proper for a man to put his hand on a woman’s backside in the subway? Is it in any way right for a man to seize a woman by the wrist, pull her down to sit next to him and put his other hand on her breast?

Is it in any way sensible or intelligent for a man to regard a natural physical attribute in a woman as the same kind of signal that a deliberate choice of clothing is? Especially when the woman is modestly dressed, and averting her gaze, and trying to keep her distance?

Should young punk boys be encouraged to say, “Great ass” to a woman twice their age, or in gang of four, ride by her on their bicycles and grab at her breasts?

Does a man have any obligation to try to figure out if his advances would be welcome to a woman, or if they would make her uncomfortable, unhappy, threatened or ashamed?

If a woman should strive for an understanding of the male psyche, does not a man have the obligation to strive to understand the female psyche? And the sensibilities of any particular woman to whom he addresses himself?

If I allow that the male sexual urge, particularly in young men, is normally and healthily very strong, almost constant, and fairly omnivorous - if I do not judge men for their thoughts - do not I have the right to judge them by their conduct?

And you - as a presumably moral man, as a citizen invested in our society - how do you require men to channel their sexual urges, and conduct themselves towards women?
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98 posted on 06/11/2016 9:00:22 PM PDT by heartwood (If you're looking for a </sarc tag>, you just saw it.)
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