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To: dragnet2
BS, no one in Middle America can afford or wants to spend outrageous expenses to heat and cool these monstrosities.

If the homes are built properly the cost of heating and cooling is lower than existing stock.

The homeowner has to understand site orientation, insulation and HVAC. If you let the contractor make those decisions, then you will pay.

My home including basement, greenhouse and garage is 5100 SQ.FT. on 6 wooden acres. I also have a large barn. My HVAC costs are less than my mothers 1200 SQ.FT. home built in the late 50s. Our home's main HVAC is 85,000 BTU NG furnace at 97% efficiency. Our AC is 3 Ton with a SEER rating of 21. Home orientation with greenhouse is SSE with R60 attic and R40 wall insulation. House is completely wrapped with fiber cement board as the siding. Even during the worst blizzards, there are no drafts or noise.

I can also heat the home with 3.5 chords of wood. Less if we have a particularly sunny winter. That is with a heating load of 6000+ heating degree days (HDD). I expect it to get much higher during the coming years.

You pay up front to do it right else you pay a recurring HVAC tax. I know many of middle America who love our retreat in the woods and would be grateful owners if they could do it all over again.
52 posted on 06/03/2016 12:52:39 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: PA Engineer

No no, I am talking about home in basically a desert environment in CA. Millions of 2-story homes in a hot desert environment, where it can stay into the 90s at night. It a no bueno. They built millions of these cheap homes built with illegal labor and foreign contractors. Not a square corner in them.

To pay for the AC and heat in one of those homes takes big dollars, two incomes, secure jobs etc. In fact I had a friend out there living in a single story home and he was paying $325 per month just for an electric bill. That’s it. They lost the home after just 4 years.

They got suckered bad.


65 posted on 06/03/2016 1:05:55 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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