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TX man pays his $212 speeding ticket with 2 buckets full of COINS in protest
UK Daily Mail ^ | 05/29/2016 | CLEMENCE MICHALLON

Posted on 05/29/2016 2:00:48 PM PDT by DFG

A Texas man who got busted driving nine miles per hour over the speed limit paid his fine entirely in pennies - as an act of protest against what he thought was 'extortion'. Brett Sanders, of Frisco, took his case to trial after going at 39 mph instead of 30 in his neighborhood. But he lost and a jury decided he should pay a $212 fine. Sanders, a full-time IT professional and a first and second amendment activist, gathered thousands of pennies to honor his debt.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: frisco; sanders; speeding; texas
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To: x1stcav
I think it’s Kali that’ll refuse to accept payment in this manner.

If they refuse to accept payment then your debt is clear.

21 posted on 05/29/2016 3:25:14 PM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: ml/nj
But no one has to accept them.

Ah, so you're asserting that coins minted by the treasury are optionally acceptable for paying off debts? How then are the federal reserve, a private entity, issued notes of greater legitimacy?

22 posted on 05/29/2016 3:29:44 PM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: DFG

http://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-man-fights-charge-warning-drivers-speed-trap/story?id=21559309

Frisco Texas is a notorious speed trap.


23 posted on 05/29/2016 3:46:35 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: DFG

Uhhhhhh, go the speed limit. If it says 30, go 30.


24 posted on 05/29/2016 4:16:36 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Yes, Liberals, I question your patriotism)
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To: McBuff

“...This guy going nearly 40 would not have time to stop and could have killed somebody’s kid.”

Depends upon what he was driving.

It’s physics.


25 posted on 05/29/2016 4:43:22 PM PDT by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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To: ozzymandus

A sh*thole town next to me has a sign on the door saying they won’t accept any coins when paying a parking or speeding ticket. Best you could do would pay in $1 bills, the ratty-ist you can find.


26 posted on 05/29/2016 4:44:59 PM PDT by sjm_888
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To: Mears

Around here, Coinstar charges a fee.


27 posted on 05/29/2016 4:52:02 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: DFG

I hope he sifted out the pre-82s.


28 posted on 05/29/2016 4:56:50 PM PDT by pa_dweller (Of all the things I've lost I miss my mind the most.)
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To: healy61

If one is a customer at many/most banks, they will auto count coins for deposit and charge nothing. What’s this nothing doing. Sometimes you don’t have to scorch earth.


29 posted on 05/29/2016 5:05:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Edward.Fish

Maybe you should pay your car license fees with pennies and find out if you’re correct. The “Pennies are money” argument usually loses, especially in government offices.


30 posted on 05/29/2016 5:08:36 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus

Most would take a fistful of Susan B. Anthony dollars, though. Anyhow if it isn’t in the code, it would be a technical loser, though the cost to prosecute it might be way more than the fine.


31 posted on 05/29/2016 5:14:23 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: DFG

That teach that clerk a lesson! They should not passed that law or written him a ticket!


32 posted on 05/29/2016 5:18:50 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions.)
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To: DFG
The guy is an idiot. Pennies are a time waster.

What he should have done is declare that speed limits using the logic of racist or sexist oppression that speed limits oppress him. If this country can't regulate bathroom use based on something as clearly distinct categories as sex, then no objective law should be beyond reach of lunacy.

If the left wants to tear apart the common culture then turn the war around and tear apart all the laws that support them. The first is to find that taxation is prejudicial as it punishes the worker and rewards the grafter. Cut the left's source of funds.

33 posted on 05/29/2016 5:49:04 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (behind enemy lines)
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To: SandRat

Banks won’t accept pennies unless they’re wrapped.


34 posted on 05/29/2016 5:49:17 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: JimRed
If I was the civil “servant” collecting the fine physically, I’d order him to count it out to me.

1 penny...2 pennies...there $212.00 even. Prove me wrong. LOL.

I understand your point but someone will still have to count it again regardless. Much time wasted however you cut it.

35 posted on 05/29/2016 6:18:15 PM PDT by Zack Attack
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To: ozzymandus
Maybe you should pay your car license fees with pennies and find out if you’re correct. The “Pennies are money” argument usually loses, especially in government offices.

That would be an interesting tact to take against the Federal Reserve.
The messenger does not have more authority than the one who sends him, and therefore the one to whom a job is delegate cannot be greater than the one who delegated that job in the first place — therefore, refusing to accept coinage minted by the Treasury and yet accepting Federal Reserve notes presents a contradiction: for the government (the Treasury) has both the responsibility and right to coin monies, but the printing of "federal reserve notes" is a delegated position from the government.

So, which is the greater authority: the Treasury, or the Federal Reserve?
And if you claim the Federal Reserve, then from whence comes its authority?

36 posted on 05/29/2016 7:14:53 PM PDT by Edward.Fish
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To: DFG

21200 pennies weigh 145.4 pounds if pre 1982 mintage, and 116.8 pounds if they are late model copper clad zinc alloy vintage.
Copper prices of 146 pennys a pound makes our older smallest currency monetarily not worth it’s weight in material.


37 posted on 05/29/2016 7:15:12 PM PDT by Recompennation
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To: healy61

Mail them to him COD? And if he fails to pay after a certain period of time the post office is required to return them to the sender.


38 posted on 05/29/2016 7:30:12 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (The day Trump is sworn in I'm changing my screen name.)
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To: Edward.Fish

Theoretically interesting, but I’d bet court clerks aren’t interested in Constitutional arguments. And pissing off petty bureaucrats isn’t a good idea anyway.


39 posted on 05/29/2016 7:49:31 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: elcid1970

My bank does, but there are a lot of poor people here. I roll mine at home just so I know how much I have.


40 posted on 05/29/2016 7:50:53 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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