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What's Driving Silicon Valley To Become "Radicalized
The Washington Post ^ | 05/24/2016 | Elizabeth Dwoskin

Posted on 05/25/2016 8:26:18 AM PDT by Cyberman

Like many Silicon Valley start-ups, Larry Gadea's company collects heaps of sensitive data from his customers.

Recently, he decided to do something with that data trove that was long considered unthinkable: He is getting rid of it.

The reason? Gadea fears that one day the FBI might do to him what it did to Apple in their recent legal battle: demand that he give the agency access to his encrypted data. Rather than make what he considers a Faustian bargain, he's building a system that he hopes will avoid the situation entirely.

"We have to keep as little [information] as possible so that even if the government or some other entity wanted access to it, we'd be able to say that we don't have it," said Gadea, founder and chief executive of Envoy....

In Silicon Valley, there's a new emphasis on putting up barriers to government requests for data. The Apple-FBI case and its aftermath have tech firms racing to employ a variety of tools that would place customer information beyond the reach of a government-ordered search....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Technical
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; privacy; siliconvalley; surveillance; tyranny
Since when is it "radical" to protect people's Consitutional rights and put technical policy in the hands of people who actually know how stuff works?
1 posted on 05/25/2016 8:26:18 AM PDT by Cyberman
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To: Cyberman

Started with radical librarians in 2002 after the Patriot Act permitted the FBI to go after lists of books someone had checked out.

Many opted to shred the data once the book had been returned.


2 posted on 05/25/2016 8:32:11 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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This is a step toward addressing the biggest 4th Amendment issue that has been brewing for some time. It’s the massive amount of personal data about you held in so many 3rd Party “silos” that keep all our transaction information. What “privacy” do you have in all that information if someone else is allowed to have it? And the government currently doesn’t need a search warrant based upon probable cause to get it, they just have to ask for it through the rubber-stamp subpoena process.

I am glad that some of the holders of this information are taking a stand that the government should not have unlimited access to it.


3 posted on 05/25/2016 8:32:49 AM PDT by henkster (Don't listen to what people say, watch what they do.)
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Big Brother doesn’t like it when he can’t see what you’re doing whenever he wants to see it.


4 posted on 05/25/2016 8:34:31 AM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: henkster

IMHO the FBI is ultimately going to lose the battle with Silicon Valley and the tech world.

In five years the world will be awash in encryption they can’t possibly break.


5 posted on 05/25/2016 8:41:11 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

are you aware of the fact that during much of the Clinton ministration and encryption was considered a weapon of mass destruction and highly illegal? Check out Zimmerman vs USA. I’m not saying it was a good thing, but the government doesn’t really care how good it’s laws are.


6 posted on 05/25/2016 8:49:02 AM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: Cyberman

We are talking the Washington Post here, where in their world what’s up is really down, what’s wrong is really right, etc.

So Silicon Valley is not getting radical, they are waking up to the tyranny government can offer.

Only radicals like WAPO will think being normal is radical.

With the Trump phenomenon (people responding to outsiders - non establishment types), I can see the pendulum swinging towards center for this nation, maybe a little past towards the right. It won’t be overnight, but it will happen. May be someday our grand kids will look at the Clinton through obama years and just wonder how it even happened in the first place. What will really boggle their minds is how a career criminal (Hitlery) ran for President or how obama got elected the second time.


7 posted on 05/25/2016 8:53:09 AM PDT by redfreedom (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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It is amazing to me that due to an emanation from a penumbra there is a right to privacy guaranteeing abortion, but no right to privacy for mountains of personal data on individuals the government wants to have.


8 posted on 05/25/2016 8:58:43 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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In five years the world will be awash in encryption they can’t possibly break.

You mean something like "ENIGMA?"

All encryption can be broken. It's more a matter of how much you want to devote in resources to the task. The computer power to make a code can also break a code, and nobody can amass computer power like the Federal Government. What we are really talking about isn't an absolute defense, but just making it so prohibitive that they won't bother to take it on.

9 posted on 05/25/2016 9:15:04 AM PDT by henkster (Don't listen to what people say, watch what they do.)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Yes, some of us remember the Crypto Wars. And you can tell they’ve lost the argument when they claim that strong encryption “protects” terrorists and child molesters. . .


10 posted on 05/25/2016 9:25:01 AM PDT by Salgak (Peace Through Superior Firepower. . . .)
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Maybe web-sites and tech products should get a third party rating, similar to Underwriters Labs, so consumers can know who to do business with.


11 posted on 05/25/2016 9:27:53 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

XKCD joked about that. That if it was a weapon, break out the Second Amendment.


12 posted on 05/25/2016 10:11:09 AM PDT by tbw2
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You have liberals who think privacy includes abortion but not having a mentally ill biologically intact man, often still attracted to women sexually, walking around naked in a locker room or shower with women.
The DoJ actually sued a school district that let the teen use the girls’ locker room but said he had to change behind a curtain. And they sued, because to feel like a girl, he had to be able to be naked with the girls, or else the feds would take away their money per Title 9.


13 posted on 05/25/2016 10:12:42 AM PDT by tbw2
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