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To: sargon
“The evidence from the investigation shows that there was something fishy going on. Read the transcripts of the text messages, for one thing.”

The Wells investigation was completely fraudulent and was the reason the judge overturned the arbitration decision. There is no evidence of Brady doing anything “fishy”. There is evidence of the NFL and Goodell continually lying and releasing false information.

If you think honesty is a “left wing attitude” then I have to disagree. The first judge was honest. He saw that Goodell had continually lied and that the behavior was so egregious as to exceed the extremely high bar required to overturn an arbitration decision.

The NFL, like any organization, can discipline players but must observe a minimum standard of honesty and fairness.

Learn about the law and why the first judge overturned Goodell’s decision. And why one of the 3 judges also voted to overturn. Two of the four judges that heard the case have felt that Goodell’s actions were so egregious that his decision needed to be overturned.

36 posted on 05/24/2016 1:59:35 PM PDT by detective
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To: detective
The NFL, like any organization, can discipline players but must observe a minimum standard of honesty and fairness.

If the Wells investigation was so "completely fraudulent", then what was the basis for the appellate court overturning the original judge's decision, spite?

Besides, "fraud" in this case is in the eye of the beholder.

The bottom line is, if Goodell made a judgement that Brady committed conduct detrimental to the league, and the owners back him, then that's all the "proof" that's needed. Period. End of story.

Other conduct is more strictly governed by provisions of the NFLPA labor contract, but "conduct detrimental" is under the sole purview of the commissioner's office. Live it. Learn it. Love it.

Furthermore, these cases are not by any means subject to the standard of proof required with criminal law.

So get off your high horse.

I, personally, have read enough to believe of the Wells report, and its endless analysis, to believe that there was an intent to deceive on Brady's part, and, furthermore, that he did not cooperate fully, which clearly added to the impression that he was hiding something.

Additionally, I don't see why Goodell would push things so far regarding Brady if he didn't believe there was something going on. After all, Brady is a big "cash cow" for the NFL.

The Commissioner has every right to impose the punishment that Brady is receiving, based on nothing more than his own judgement. And that's as it should be. FOr whatever reason, Goodell got a "stick up his a--" for Brady, and as long as the owners backed him, that meant tha Brady would ultimately lose the pissing contest.

If the team owners don't like Goodell's judgement, they can replace him. I, for one, applaud the commissioner's firm action.

The Patriots are notorious cheaters. I guess having a reputation for that didn't help, when they were finally so "unfairly" prosecuted.

Cry me a river.

I have three words for you:

Snow Plow Incident

And I assure you that my interest in seeing Tom Brady punished has nothing to do with the fact that he's a Trump supporter, or that I'm a Miami Dolphins fan...

41 posted on 05/24/2016 2:19:12 PM PDT by sargon (You're either with Trump, or you're with Hillary.)
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