Posted on 05/24/2016 7:37:22 AM PDT by servo1969
“he would NEVER compare ANYONE with Hitler.”
He just did.
He’s inferring that America’s current “difficult” choice between Trump and Hillary is much like our previous “difficult” choice between Staling and Hitler.
It’s right there, in the article. Which I read.
Good thoughts. Perfection eludes all of us, and even Trump’s supporters understand that he most probably won’t be able to accomplish all that he envisions. But the alternative is forcing us to choose sides, and there it is. What has been fueling the fights here on FR is that given the now-recognized inevitability of this choice, those who supported Trump on FR because they had the instincts to see who could best win the nomination and the general have resented being called immoral (not by you, FRiend). I think Prager’s examples above of persons making seemingly immoral choices in a “lesser evil” situation have answered those charges.
#Never Trump is about EGO, not principals.
Sins of omission are still sins.
Trump or Clinton will be President. If you really believe Conservative principals, you have a choice between Trump who is, at worst, partially on your side and Clinton who is completely against you.
#Never Trump is about ego driven media children who are getting an education that they are not so big and influential “opinion sharpers” as they thought they were.
What astounds me about these people is that THEY ALL were FIRMLY behind MITTENS and McLaim two f the MOST LIBERAL BASTARDS on the planet in the Pubbie Party!!!!’
Yes, a lot of people have called others a lot of names and made sweeping judgments of a sort that surprised me, even after all these years. I’m much more of a, “I disagree with (point) because (reason),” person.
I agree with Prager on his main points. However, I also agree with Jonah Goldberg that the idea that his (Jonah’s) non-vote will decide the election is simply magical thinking.
Your reasonableness and advanced ability to debate instead of flame is one of the many reasons I “identity” as your FRiend!
Why, thank you! I always appreciate dialog with you, too!
I get a little rude sometimes, but I make sure it’s toward the subjects of the news (Hillary Clinton, for example) rather than the poster. I also try to evaluate an article on its own merits, rather than disagreeing with the author about one thing and therefore writing off his lifetime output.
I presume his position is, then, that use of the A-bomb was “not moral purity” either. Not to draw equivalence, by the way, but he argues that the morality of an action can depend on circumstances (e.g., between two bad choices, or do a bad thing for a good end), and that dropping the A-bombs on Japan was moral, period.
If that is indeed Prager.s moral principle, he is on the side of those who have done great harm in history.
To choose a bad thing for a good end is Consequentialism. The end justifies any means. Such moral thinking wreaks great suffering ultimately. The human mind is not capable of foreseeing all consequences of most actions. That is why the moral system of admitting intrinsic evils has produced healthy societies.
That is not the case between Donald and Hillary. This is a choice between better and worst. Donald is better than Hillary. Hillary is the absolute worst.
No contest. Vote Trump even though he is not the perfect candidate.
Role model. Wish more newbie posters (and quite a few old ones) would use your criteria.
I just don’t like conflict ;-).
These are not conservatives, they are propagandists for the Cheap Labor Express
Their rejection of the Trump Express notwithstanding, the authors cited have a long-term well established record as political, social, and fiscal conservatives. You are entitled to your derisive opinion of them based on their opposition to Trump; but your contempt for them does not diminish their solid record as conservative columnists and thinkers.
Prager's analysis and argument is spot-on, and he makes very good points. I intend to vote for the republican candidate in every single race on the ballot below the presidential ticket, and I will definitely NOT vote for the democrat candidate. At this point I am undecided as to whether I will vote for the libertarian candidate or for the democrat running as a republican in the presidential race. In Texas, I can't see Trump being so dreadfully horrible as to lose the race to Hillary, so my protest vote for a more conservative libertarian candidate couldn't possibly be the same thing as a vote for Hillary. And if Trump were to somehow lose Texas to Hillary with or without my vote then we are so far gone that what difference at this point does it make anyway.
The People are going to speak quite loudly this November, so the William Krystols of the world can just stick that in their pipe and smoke it.
These idiots don't control us.
I'm surprised that they entertained the notion that they ever did.
It's wonderful to see them losing their grip on the control they think they exercised.
They exist to report on the world as it is, not to tell us how we should make it.
In their arrogance, they've lost track of their subordinate role.
I pray to God that this Revolution succeeds so that these Uniparty elites can be permanently disabused of the notion that they rule over us.
They prosper at our pleasure, not the other way around.
Vote Trump!
No wonder we have only one party! We have a whole majority full of guys in Congress that are hell-bent on doing the same destroying. But we had to vote for them because otherwise the other side would have won.
Deface the political currency!
I care more than ever. I hate losing. I purpose to fight harder.
My Congressman has an inexcusably lousy 49% CR Liberty rating. Why didn't somebody, anybody primary him? What did I do to help that happen?
FReeper: fivetoes - Tom Buchanan, Dec 2001, It's All My Fault - he passed away in March.
Well said.
Will, Shapiro and the rest of the NeverTrump pundits are the enemy within. The long years of fraudulent conservative noises aren’t a badge of honor. Whatever they once were, they are poison now.
They seem to really fear this “nativism” they speak of so frequently.
Wonder why that is?
“They seem to really fear this nativism they speak of so frequently. Wonder why that is?”
Because they aren’t patriots. They are court-followers seeking influence and prestige.
In the Revolution they would have been loyal to King George.
Ben Shapiro is a conservative.
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These are not conservatives, they are propagandists for the Cheap Labor Express
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Yes, but more importantly for us, they are simply positioning themselves for the next four years of a Trump presidency, as to who can grab the most money heel-biting Trump, only after we spend the first 100 days hearing their lamentations, and their beating of empty tubs, as to which of them tried the hardest to stop Trump.
The thing to do is to starve GoldbergKristolShapiroStephensWill of money. Tell their advertisers directly and explicitly why you are refusing to patronize them any further. In Will's and Kristol's case, enough blowback may be enough encouragement to retire several of these neocon RINOs.
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