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Can Russia Survive Washington’s Attack?
Institute for Political Economy ^ | May 19, 2016 | Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 05/22/2016 7:50:15 PM PDT by thoughtomator

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I've noticed that a number of people here are still on board with the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama-Clinton neocon/neoliberal foreign policy, so I am helpfully posting this very detailed an informative article to assist in their deprogramming. Anyone else who hasn't been keeping up to speed on these topics will find it helpful as well.
1 posted on 05/22/2016 7:50:15 PM PDT by thoughtomator
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The “existential’ threat is Islam in your borders you morons!


2 posted on 05/22/2016 7:52:34 PM PDT by Lent
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One thing that is very clear in the upcoming election is that Trump has no desire whatsoever to threaten nuclear war. He will bargain and may bargain on behalf Eastern Europe with a lot less leverage than Reagan did. OTOH the average Eastern European is fully on board with Trump on Muslim immigration which is one of Putin's bargaining chips.

I trust Trump to give us a modernized nuclear deterrent to retaliate overwhelmingly against a nuclear first strike. I also trust him to bargain aggressively for the best deal we can get from Russia without the threat of all-out war.

3 posted on 05/22/2016 8:03:10 PM PDT by palmer (Net "neutrality" = Obama turning the internet over to foreign enemies)
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Who do you think has been facilitating that for the past 20 years? Clinton in Bosnia/Kosovo, Bush in Iraq, Obama/Clinton in Libya and Syria, they’ve been popping the lids of these Pandora’s boxes and letting Islam run rampant and gain control where previously secular dictators had them under wraps.


4 posted on 05/22/2016 8:04:36 PM PDT by thoughtomator
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Can Russia Survive Washington’s Attack?

Probably not, but the real question is: can North America and Western Europe survive Russian thermonuclear retaliation?

5 posted on 05/22/2016 8:11:46 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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"It is not only American generals who are irresponsible and declare on the basis of no evidence whatsoever that “Russia is an existential threat to the United States” and also to the Baltic states, Poland, Georgia, Ukraine, and all of Europe. "

The poor Russians, surrounded by so many people who hate and distrust them for no reason./s

Thinking that Russia wouldn't hesitate for a second to invade and swallow its neighbors whole if it thought it would get away with it doesn't make one a neocon.

We don't have to do nation building in Eastern Europe, just protect the existing countries from being absorbed by the mass of barbarism to the East.

6 posted on 05/22/2016 8:12:42 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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Sorry, Russia’s centuries long habit of murdering their neighbors has nothing to do with “Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama-Clinton neocon/neoliberal foreign policy”. But thanks for playing.


7 posted on 05/22/2016 8:12:42 PM PDT by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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Agreed. Russia has murdered 100 million in the last century and it continues to support terrorists throughout the world besides conducting the first invasion in Europe since 1939


8 posted on 05/22/2016 8:24:25 PM PDT by cassiusking
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NATO, Russian and Chinese forces should pretend to launch at each other - but all "overshoot" and wipe out most of the Middle East. Just think of the stability that would return to the world.

Only half-joking...

9 posted on 05/22/2016 8:31:13 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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Sorry, Russia’s centuries long habit of murdering their neighbors has nothing to do with “Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama-Clinton neocon/neoliberal foreign policy”. But thanks for playing.

Right. They and their ally, snow, murdered millions of French and Germans. That's the ticket. Bad Russians.

10 posted on 05/22/2016 8:36:37 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (behind enemy lines)
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Bookmark


11 posted on 05/22/2016 8:42:16 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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Russian planes buzzing ships and planes of the US and the U.K. is an existential threat.
Putin is using radical Islam, just like the old days. Communism remains. Putin is KGB first, last and always

This article is insane


12 posted on 05/22/2016 8:44:38 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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Plus Paul Craig Roberts is an Alex Jones Infowars pig


13 posted on 05/22/2016 8:46:11 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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There just as many blame America surrender monkeys on the right as on left, IMO.


14 posted on 05/22/2016 9:31:00 PM PDT by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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The existential thteat to the US is in the White Mosque..


15 posted on 05/22/2016 10:31:12 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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Roberts is a big fan of Palestinian terrorists. He can Vlad can go bleep themselves.


16 posted on 05/23/2016 12:53:52 AM PDT by Impy (Did you know "Hillary" spelled backwards is "Bitch"?)
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He AND Vlad,


17 posted on 05/23/2016 12:54:47 AM PDT by Impy (Did you know "Hillary" spelled backwards is "Bitch"?)
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True words


18 posted on 05/23/2016 4:20:50 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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Yup


19 posted on 05/23/2016 4:21:12 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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I’m not sure we’re in a position to talk much. Kosova (as Clinton called it) was part of Yugoslavia (now Serbia) for centuries. The people there became more Muslim and decided to start a civil war. The Serbs, justifiably, said no...you are part of Serbia, and resisted. What do we (NATO) do? We bomb the crap out of civil targets in Belgrade until they capitulate. [and by they, the Saudis have now turned Kosova into an Islamic terrorist base]

What happened in Crimea? The population there, almost all ethnic Russians, wanted to be part of Russia again, given their despotic local leadership. Putin goes there, severs off Crimea from the Ukraine, and that is that (I should note, Putin didn’t bomb the daylights out of Kiev to get his way, either).

So we sever Serbia because the people there didn’t want to stay Serbian, and Putin severs Crimea because the people there didn’t want to stay as part of the Ukraine.

...am I missing something?


20 posted on 05/23/2016 4:26:37 AM PDT by BobL
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