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To: Rebelbase

Joe knows climate and weather. There is actually one way the satellite could be reading correct. If the main trend is colder, El Nino could be creating a false signal in the South. Ocean circulation slows. No heat getting to Arctic due to Bering Straits, but heat getting to South from El Nino surface heating. This might be the off switch for heating the deep Oceans. So Northern Hemisphere first goes into Ice Age, as it appears to be doing. Massive El Ninos, the source of the snow, keep the southern hemisphere lagging the Ice Age. As planet keeps cooling, El Ninos get weaker slowly. Then both hemispheres are in Ice Age. Just my 2 cents.


54 posted on 05/16/2016 10:56:43 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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I can see that the website has some problems. The maps shown for 1980 and 2015 (back a few posts) have obviously erroneous snow cover for June 1, 2015 (and I found same for later dates in June). The website does note that land snow cover is not depicted in the 1980 map. However, there’s no way that large parts of North America and Europe would have that much snow cover in June last year or any other year since about the Ogg-Caveman presidency.

As to the problems with sea ice depictions, this seems to be explained earlier in the discussion.

Generally speaking, the peak of sea ice in each hemisphere can be expected around the spring equinox and the minimum is usually observed in the September of northern hemisphere and as late as April in the south because down there, it’s all ocean for the ice to conquer rather than enclosed basins like we have in the north (they chill faster thanks to contact with nearby frigid land masses).

And this may be widely known already around here, but northern sea ice has been in a general decline since 1980 while southern sea ice has been expanding its range at maximum. The hemispheres are often out of sync, but the circulation of the southern hemisphere prevents very much antarctic air from getting much beyond the ice margins so that more sea ice does not necessarily translate to colder spells in the populated parts of the southern hemisphere, whereas in the northern hemisphere, winter temperatures do tend to correlate with sea ice, especially in Europe with its maritime climate.

FWIW, I believe that we are in a steady-state climate era rather than any sort of plunge towards an ice age or runaway global warming. It’s warmer now than it was in most of the 18th and 19th centuries, and a little cooler in general than the peak of recent warming episodes. Nothing much is going on, despite all the hype, and it’s certainly not any real cause for alarm. The magnetic field is in a slow weakening cycle and trouble may lurk over the horizon there in terms of a reversal, but that could be hundreds of years away yet if not longer.


56 posted on 05/16/2016 11:27:21 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (I've crossed the Rubicon -- God speed Donald Trump (just remember these are two different persons))
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To: justa-hairyape

No, the daily differences in “reported” Antarctic sea ice are much too large for them to be correct. See above for more detailed info.

The El Nino is too far away from the Antarctic Ocean to melt any sea ice. In a few months, the currents will move warmer water around, but the effect is slower and smaller than yo seem to think. It IS there, just smaller than these erroneous values recently.


61 posted on 05/17/2016 1:15:02 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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