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'Outlaw bikers' open up about clubs, culture and deadly Waco shootout
CNN ^ | May 15, 2016 | Ann O'Neill, Ed Lavandera

Posted on 05/16/2016 7:27:22 AM PDT by Texas Fossil

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How this story was reported

Bikers who might never have considered talking to outsiders before Waco recently spoke with CNN. Some were in the thick of the violence, others were hundreds of miles away. Most face serious prison time.

CNN also obtained voluminous documentation, including witness statements, and hours of video evidence from Waco police dash cams, as well as a cameras police set up in the restaurant parking lot. CNN also obtained and reviewed videos from the Twin Peaks surveillance cameras.

That evidence, along with interviews with experts and bikers from both clubs, form the basis of the documentary, "Biker Brawl: Inside the Texas Shootout," which airs for the first time on Monday at 9 p.m. on CNN.

(Excerpt) Read more at edition.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bikers; dea; shootout; waco
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This is a long article that is hard to excerpt for content, so I chose to post the part about how CNN got the content.

I don't trust CNN to be "unbiased" but I am looking forward to seeing the content tonight.

Tomorrow is 1 year anniversary of Twin Peaks shootings.

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money quote:

"I don't think they're gonna try anybody in Waco," said Houston lawyer Paul Looney, who represents an arrested Cossack and a couple caught up in the melee. "I think the entire detention in Waco is a babysitting exercise while the feds complete their investigation. There'll be a superseding federal indictment out of San Antonio in which a lot of the people that were arrested in Waco go into that indictment, and the Waco prosecutions will just go by the by."

1 posted on 05/16/2016 7:27:22 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

When I was in law school, my roommate worked at the Village Pantry at Michigan & Tibbs; those familiar with Indianapolis know the neighborhood. It’s not good. But it was a few doors down from the Outlaws clubhouse. He liked having the bikers in the store; it was security IPD didn’t provide. They took care of the staff and protected them from other “local elements” who rightfully feared them.

The biker women, well, they weren’t so nice.


2 posted on 05/16/2016 7:35:20 AM PDT by henkster (DonÂ’t listen to what people say, watch what they do.)
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To: Texas Fossil

And the entire sordid affair goes into the memory hole.


3 posted on 05/16/2016 7:36:12 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: henkster

It’s almost like the gummit doesn’t like the competition, shades of skepticism at the militia.


4 posted on 05/16/2016 7:38:02 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: don-o

ping


5 posted on 05/16/2016 7:38:19 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Texas Fossil

At one time talking to CNN would have been enough to get you booted out of the Hells Angels.


6 posted on 05/16/2016 7:38:31 AM PDT by IamConservative (There is no greater threat to our freedoms than Bipartisanship.)
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To: wastoute

The idea of babysitting in this manner for the Feds should be anathema.


7 posted on 05/16/2016 7:39:16 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: IamConservative

But now they’re friends, go figure.


8 posted on 05/16/2016 7:39:35 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Texas Fossil

There are no sympathetic groups in this issue.


9 posted on 05/16/2016 7:44:02 AM PDT by TexasM1A
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To: IamConservative

“Three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead.”


10 posted on 05/16/2016 7:45:49 AM PDT by henkster (DonÂ’t listen to what people say, watch what they do.)
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To: henkster

Thanks for input. I’ve been following this mess from the beginning. I know that the Banditos contains some real criminal elements, but this has been a total Fed Directed screwup since beginning.

Imagine, no trials at all after 1 year of investigation.

Most of those indicted were charged with “criminal conspiracy”. With no individual probable cause.

This is a pilot program by the Fed Gov in mass group arrests under very vague charges. This is not the only such action being taken.


11 posted on 05/16/2016 7:49:02 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: henkster

Mostly accurate. The Cossacks did start it and they paid heavily for it. Pardon me if I don’t shed a tear for them.


12 posted on 05/16/2016 7:49:13 AM PDT by Snowybear
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To: Texas Fossil

I haven’t gotten to the text, but the video is very slanted against the bikers.

The bikers did not initiate the attack, the LEO initiated the attack on the bikers.


13 posted on 05/16/2016 7:53:52 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: TexasM1A

Well, you know, gangs are like families...

/s


14 posted on 05/16/2016 7:54:49 AM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: Dr. Pritchett

Yeah, or something like that.


15 posted on 05/16/2016 7:56:32 AM PDT by TexasM1A
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To: henkster

When I was in my early 20s, my job was to go out to the not so savory neighborhoods and had death threats. A girl, by myself, in a dress skirt and heels. Before cell phones to call for help. At morning, noon, or the middle of the night. My supervisor thought I was crazy for stopping in at outlaw type joints to eat. He say, “There’s blood and hair on the pool cues!” But, where I had to go, there wasn’t much to chose from and those places were the safest places around. Now, older and wiser, I would never do that job again but I would and do trust bikers over most other folks.


16 posted on 05/16/2016 8:05:44 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Snowybear
Mostly accurate. The Cossacks did start it

No, the feds got this one going.

17 posted on 05/16/2016 8:07:35 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: bgill

“The bikers did not initiate the attack, the LEO initiated the attack on the bikers.”

BS, even biker witnesses at the scene have stated that bikers started both the fight and the shooting.


18 posted on 05/16/2016 8:10:27 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: PAR35

Wrong, the bikers started the fighting and the shooting.


19 posted on 05/16/2016 8:10:53 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: bgill

I’ve read that there was at least 3 who were informants or undercover agents within the biker groups at Twin Peaks that day.

Early rumors said one of them was “outed” and that is what triggered the incident. He was trying to get out of the building as he was being exposed.


20 posted on 05/16/2016 8:11:01 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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