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Daryl Hall has a message for critics crying cultural appropriation
Salon ^ | May 15, 2016 | Gerard Perry

Posted on 05/15/2016 1:24:22 PM PDT by OddLane

Daryl Hall is possibly the most interesting man in music. He and John Oates form the most successful musical duo of all time, and even though, their setlists during sold out shows around the world are full of instantly recognizable hits from the 1970s and ‘80s, they are not a nostalgia act.

More than other performers in their age bracket, including The Rolling Stones and Bruce Springsteen, Daryl Hall and John Oates have constructed a coalition of baby boomers who remember where they were when “Rich Girl” or “Sara Smile” first hit the radio, and thirty and twenty-something fans who enjoy the smooth, soulful, and pop-infused style of “I Can’t Go For That” and “Out of Touch” as if those songs came out yesterday.

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I tried watching a BBC documentary about British soul music (and many of the music docs are good, especially the one on Northern Soul) but the one on British Soul played up the “struggles” and tried to equate being of Caribbean origin or even an African immigrant as somehow linked to the black experience in America in the 1960s. Tom Jones even played up the Irish know what being black is like angle.

The Northen Soul doc is much more satisfying about Northern England DJs (true record collectors) digging for “new” sounds to bring to the public who literally made those songs their own without record label push, without radio support, without music press coverage. They still got those songs on top sales charts 5+ years after they’d been released and forgotten by the labels.

Here are the web links

Soul Britannia. Episode 1: I Feel Good
(nagging on Thatcherism should be a tipoff it’ll suck)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL0qe8gtygQ

Northern Soul Living for the Weekend BBC Documentary 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jHx4AoCk4k

Didn’t car for this one either
Blues Britannia - Can Blue Men Sing The Whites (2009)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILdoW-0S7wo


41 posted on 05/15/2016 2:11:51 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Publishing rights on old hits will still bring in money when they are played on radio/tv/movies/commercials. Decades out.

Play a live show and you have to again tomorrow and the next day and so on for decades out.


42 posted on 05/15/2016 2:16:27 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
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To: DesertRhino

I can’t read the article. I can’t get past the first three paragraphs. If I don’t agree with any thing there, why should I think there is anything serious after that.

Start with: These two has-beens who had a few lame songs in the seventy’s, are back on tour to cash in. Their songs don’t sound so bad when you only hear them once every 10 years.

But now they don’t only sing, but they also give us their political opinions too. We should listen to has-been pop stars because they sit on a font of wisdom, and they know best.


43 posted on 05/15/2016 2:17:01 PM PDT by poinq
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To: Rastus

There were blues (and Stax) tours of England before Clapton and Page had their bands. It’s part of the reason they continued with it (beyond the fandom of the import record albums they and the Stones were listening to).

Jazz clubs didn’t like the invading bands that were coming in with this other sound.


44 posted on 05/15/2016 2:20:23 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
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To: lee martell

“Most of their biggest hits were produced by my Philadelphia Hero: Todd Rundgren: “A Wizard, A True Star!”

For a couple of years I’ve saved an episode of “Live From Daryl’s House” that was done at Rundgren’s home in Hawaii. He and Daryl played great together and his solos exhibited his trademark “kind of looks like a standard rock guitar solo - but is 10x more melodic”. Beautiful scenery, too (they played on the deck).


45 posted on 05/15/2016 2:22:04 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Now that’s just plain funny


46 posted on 05/15/2016 2:24:26 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Mad Dawgg

I don’t know that the shed amphitheaters would be booking him if he turned his back on playing his old songs live (as Bowie did for awhile).

I agree as a musician he’s not a nostalgia artist, but to the livenation bookers and majority of the audience he is.


47 posted on 05/15/2016 2:24:57 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

I saw Bob Dylan last year (4th time). I knew the setlist going in (looked it up online). Almost nothing from the 60s, a couple from the 70s, and heavy focus on his last 4-5 albums.

Band and voice sounded great. Bob played quite a bit of harmonica even. Crowd I talk with later (including people I knew) were disappointed by the choice of material.

I’d taken the time to familiarize myself with the songs on the list.


48 posted on 05/15/2016 2:29:35 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
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To: poinq

Bingo. And well said.


49 posted on 05/15/2016 2:31:22 PM PDT by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: Magic Fingers

I saw that on YouTube. I have to get used to my music icons growing old with me, and looking it. Todd is close to 68 and looks every hour. But so what? Better he goes with it, and still enjoys touring. I wonder if many of the rappers will make it into old age? I mean the old school rappers not on ‘lock up’.


50 posted on 05/15/2016 2:31:45 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: OddLane

[Daryl Hall is possibly the most interesting man in music]

I have to stop by just to issue this:

LOLOLOLOL


51 posted on 05/15/2016 2:36:20 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: lee martell

“I have to get used to my music icons growing old with me, and looking it.”

Same here. It’s a work in progress - ha.


52 posted on 05/15/2016 2:37:44 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: OddLane

Heard a female vocal cover of “One on One” this week.

Wowzers!

Just as great as the Hall and Oates’ original.


53 posted on 05/15/2016 2:38:42 PM PDT by Vision Thing (Vote Trump!)
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To: OddLane

Last week was Cheap Trick. I really enjoyed it!


54 posted on 05/15/2016 2:41:33 PM PDT by ozaukeemom (If we continue to divide, they will conquer!)
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To: DesertRhino

That’s th takaay of othr postrs, th uthor, and th hadlin.

I think th core of the article is ho Daryl has a chat sho to discuss and play new music and help get other artists a leg up in a lousy music corporate culture world.

The FR excrpt is about how his is not a nostalgia band and they rally rank among the best vocal duos ever.


55 posted on 05/15/2016 2:42:55 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama is more supportive of Iran's right to defend its territorial borders than he is of the USA's.)
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To: newfreep

I love live at daryls house ! It is must see !!


56 posted on 05/15/2016 2:44:50 PM PDT by onona (Honey this isn't Kindergarten. We are in an all out war for the survival of our Country !)
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To: OddLane

“He and John Oates form the most successful musical duo of all time,”

Oh good God, Simon and Garfunkel blew these jokes away.


57 posted on 05/15/2016 2:46:57 PM PDT by heights
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To: lee martell

I didn’t know that!

Both of my much younger brothers are HUGE Todd fans. They took me to a concert several years ago where he sat in some kind of contraption...played a synthesizer, sang, operated the lighting...the whole she-bang. Pretty impressive.

Myself...being 11 years older...I was just upset he didn’t play Hello, It’s Me. :) They go see him everytime he is in town.

In keeping with the topic of the thread..I like H&O alright. But I don’t know that I would consider them the best duo of all time.


58 posted on 05/15/2016 2:54:39 PM PDT by berdie (#No Hill/bern)
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To: a fool in paradise

Huh? Could you interpret that post for us dummies that speak Ingrish?


59 posted on 05/15/2016 2:57:19 PM PDT by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: heights
I think he means in terms of record sales-or maybe charting singles/albums?

Although, at least according to Wikipedia, the Carpenters are ahead of them in that regard.

60 posted on 05/15/2016 2:57:23 PM PDT by OddLane
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