Posted on 05/12/2016 7:38:46 AM PDT by AuntB
“There’s only one way for her to win - she has to run on “I’m a woman and it’s time for a woman!” I can just hear that screeching voice now...”
Don’t forget the media. She has the media.
Someone who was there please tell me, did Goldwater ever have a chance in 1964? There had to be the ‘Wellstone Memorial’ feeling for the Dems after Kennedy’s death.
No president ever ordered the dropping of nuclear bombs. Atomic bombs use fission. Nuclear bombs use an atomic bomb to ignite another bomb that uses fusion to do its damage. Huge difference. Truman ordered Atomic Bombs to be dropped...
And, as in many cases when it comes to old Democrats, I'm in complete agreement with him on that particular major decision. I'm also on board with JFK's "ask not what your country can do for you", MLK's "I have a dream that one day my four little children will be judged based on the content of their character and not the color of their skin", and the 1994 Dem Party Platform talking point that said "the era of Big Government is over". Don't be so blind as the Left as to castigate every word and choice of every person, just because of a label they have been given.
Goldwater ran an honest campaign, LBJ a dishonest one based on making his opponent look like a dangerous Gen. Jack Ripper.
But the bottom line was that America wasn’t ready for three Presidents in less than a year. Johnson pretended to offer continuity to JFK’s New Frontier, and the voters responded.
The following year we were up to our @zz in Vietnam.
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I was told voting for Goldwater meant we would have riots in the streets and get into a long un-winnable war. Well I voted for Goldwater, and darned if they weren't right.
You barely touched on the myriad of reasons. She’s going down in flames, it’s not even going to be lose. Yay!!
But in our hearts we knew he was right.
If the best Hillary can do is go back in time 52 years in an attempt to dredge up some supposed conservative bugaboo to use against Trump, she doesn’t stand a chance. For anybody not already old enough to collect social security a mention of Barry Goldwater is going elicit a response of, “Huh? Who is that? Was he in a band?” Not to mention that in 1964 the nation was in the hottest part of the Cold War with nuclear war a real threat, today the mention of nuclear war gets little more than a yawn or shrug...
And with confidence they will FAIL.
I think Hilary will be out of the running, and sooner rather than later. (When’s their convention?). I think the Dems will run Biden + Faucahontas as the ‘sane grown-ups.’ They’ve been keeping the lid on Biden so no one will remember the idiotic things he has said. The Dems will be thrilled to have someone to vote for who looks ‘normal’ and Obama will be thrilled to have a puppet in the office for another 8.
Hillary Clinton got her start in politics as a “Goldwater Girl” in 1964.
Ironic, ain’t it?
A semi-coherent statement that would be 100% true if only looking at the race from the politically correct angle that, in case you missed it, has NOT been an issue WHATSOEVER this election. Trump need not address anything about how he goes about his campaign. It has been clear cut enough to win the primary. It will resonate in the general as well. What we need are all the (politically correct, poll driven, establishment jackboot licking) armchair quarterbacks to shut the hell up and let Trump do what Trump does best.
I actually remember the “daisy” ad. I had just turned 5. It aired on a Sunday night (as I recall) and I never saw it again. But I clearly remember seeing it. An astonishing thing, the human mind.
In order for Hillary to successfully pull off a repeat of 1964 she is going to have to get Obama to take a parade through downtown Dallas in a convertible.
It was largely the sympathy vote over JFK and Bobby’s speech at the Dem convention in Atlantic City telling America that it was what JFK would have wanted that really turned the election into a blow-out.
If that is true then wouldn’t all those donations (bribes) to the Clinton Fraudation from foreign entities have been wasted?
Of course, but if said "foreign entities" were altogether too stupid to figure out they were buying a complete "nothing burger", with Clinton "special sauce", it isn't anybody's problem but their own. Now, if they desire to recoup their loss out of HRC's hide? Far be it from little old me to stand in their way...
the infowarrior
The lesser reason is one that we have become quite familiar with in the past few election cycles: the Republican party controllers -- the GOPe if you like -- really hate anyone in the party (or calling themselves members of the party) who doesn't follow their instructions and/or dogma. Why? Such a person directly threatens their current power, possibly even for the long term. Because of this, they work tirelessly to sabotage any such person. In 1964, they pushed for Scranton, then sat on their hands when the general election rolled around.
The other, greater reason is that -- absent some extreme circumstance -- the American public will simply not tolerate three different presidents within the span of 15 months (Nov. 1963-Jan. 1965). This is not particularly rational, to be sure, but it is inarguable.
What **may** have changed in this cycle is that Trump is not, by any stretch, a traditional Republican sticking a thumb in the eye of the GOPe. Rather, he's just a man who is capitalising pretty successfully on the general loathing of the do-nothing Republican party bosses. In this, he is aided considerably by the (frankly, self-evident) fact that Clinton is an appallingly bad candidate. The result of these two circumstances is that some apparently large number of voting groups, working-class Democrats and the indifferent being two such groups, are -- so far at least -- rallying to Trump.
We shall just have to wait to see if the continuing efforts of the vermin of the Bos-Wash corridor will come through to produce a victory for the latter-day Madame Defarge. I happen to think that there is a decent shot that they will fail.
FReegards,
Goldwater had absolutely no chance in 1964. In the aftermath of JFK being killed no one would have or could have beat Johnson. Now if JFK had lived then Goldwater would have had a good chance of beating him. Something we will never know.
I believe I said as much, Captain, although phrased more generally. Still haven’t figured out why that drug-soaked mediocrity of a rich boy was such an idol. The press, I suppose. At any rate, we are certainly agreed.
She is old, old-school, and uses old ideas and tactics. No one has ever faced the likes of a Donald Trump who has rendered all traditional campaigning and "political logic" moot. She will have no clue what hit her. Trump will have to tell her to "put some ice on that" when he's done.
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