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To: dmz
Untold millions (or was that billions) of galaxies. Estimates of 4-40 billion planets that might be capable of supporting life.

In a universe with the correct physical laws to allow life to exist. Which this one (obviously!) has.

This is the Fine-tuned Universe argument:

The premise of the fine-tuned Universe assertion is that a small change in several of the dimensionless fundamental physical constants would make the Universe radically different. As Stephen Hawking has noted, "The laws of science, as we know them at present, contain many fundamental numbers, like the size of the electric charge of the electron and the ratio of the masses of the proton and the electron. ... The remarkable fact is that the values of these numbers seem to have been very finely adjusted to make possible the development of life."

This is a much stronger argument for a Creator than anything creationist critics of evolution have come up with.

40 posted on 05/06/2016 12:33:57 PM PDT by MaxFlint
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To: MaxFlint

The remarkable fact is that the values of these numbers seem to have been very finely adjusted to make possible the development of life

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I sure cam’t say for sure one way or the other, but my degree in philosophy from better than 35 years ago cautions me about arguments using the word ‘seem’.


65 posted on 05/06/2016 12:59:57 PM PDT by dmz
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To: MaxFlint

This [fine-tuned universe] is a much stronger argument for a Creator than anything creationist critics of evolution have come up with.


Absolutely correct. There are 20 numbers, any one of which the slightest change would make star-formation impossible. The most amazing one to me is the value of dark energy, which is exact to 120 decimal places. Make it stronger or weaker by 3 decimal places: no stars, no galaxies, no us.

But such a precision design — which absolutely points to a designer — absolutely does not preclude the possibility of Set It And Forget it. God set the parameters, spun up the Big Bang, then did nothing else.

And beyond that possibility, there is also many other weirder, internally-logically-consistent, scenarios.


138 posted on 05/07/2016 2:28:56 PM PDT by samtheman (Trump For America.)
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