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To: BlueNgold
I don’t remember any trump supporters vowing to stay home if ted won.

You must have been off this site for the last few months, because lots of Trump supporters said they would never vote for Cruz.

154 posted on 05/04/2016 8:54:07 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Social and constitutional conservative)
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To: Charles Henrickson

I have been here quite a while and when a Trump voter said that, it was usually because of Cruz’s plan to steal the nomination.


170 posted on 05/04/2016 9:11:01 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Charles Henrickson

Not if he won 1237 legit.

People were getting mad with the delegate games.


186 posted on 05/04/2016 9:18:15 PM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: Charles Henrickson

That’s anecdotal.
By and large the early opinion was “may the best man win”

When it became obvious Cruz couldn’t win the nomination outright, and the shenanigans started with delegates, the opinion weight shifted.

Before that, many bit back against the NRO CFG types and their nevertrump.

The point is...
Many, if not most, were supporting their preferred candidate, with the other as a strong second. That was at one point true, anyway.

Cruz supporters now find themselves in various stages of the grief continuum....
Some clinging to false hope that Nebraska with revive the dead.
Many are angry.
Many are depressed.

Acceptance will come, and with that will come the ability to make rational decisions. Choosing not to support Trump may be the result for some. Some will be unmotivated to vote at all. But many will vote staunchly against the dems, and many will find themselves content if not even happy with Trump as a choice.

No choice is wrong if rationally made.

I never voted for McCain or Romney, but I voted as the doors opened against Obama. Voting third party or staying home with that much on the line was never, for me, an option.

... just my 2¢


210 posted on 05/04/2016 9:38:28 PM PDT by BlueNgold (May I suggest a very nice 1788 Article V with your supper...)
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To: Charles Henrickson
You must have been off this site for the last few months, because lots of Trump supporters said they would never vote for Cruz.

The situations weren't even close to equivalent.

Trump had the People's support, and Cruz didn't.

Ted Cruz showed disdain for the voters' choice, and insulted their intelligence, calling them "low information" which is totally false.

Cruz had nowhere near enough delegates to make any serious run at winning a contested convention, and thus was simply hoping for some kind of GOPe/delegate enabled "theft", using "greased skids" "GOP superdelegates" fabricated in states like Colorado.

So, at least for Trump supporters, the argument that they could not in good conscience vote for Cruz was by far the more reasonable one.

But it's time to unify behind our nominee, and stop crying over spilled milk.

There shouldn't be too many intellectually honest members of this community wringing their hands about voting for Donald Trump.

Donald Trump is the presumptive nominee; he will have a solid majority of delegates, and he has received a yuuuge number of popular votes: more than any GOP Presidential primary candidate in history, I believe.

Voter enthusiasm for the GOP has been through the roof, breaking records everywhere. Conversely, Democratic turnout has been severely depressed, even with the Hillary-Bernie battle raging.

Anyone who is expressing reluctance to vote for Donald Trump is either being disingenuous, is still bitter about Ted Cruz, or is so misguided that they don't understand that Hillary is, by many orders of magnitude, the clear and present danger to the country.

It's time for Cruz supporters to stop flirting with disaster and get their heads straight going into the GOP convention.

By the way, what a great song that Molly Hatchet number is!

The Revolution is ON, folks! I hope it is real and that every patriotic American should want to be part of it.

As Donald says: "Think BIG!"

I'm reminded of what happened during the (original American) Revolution, after Washington had held command for 1 year or 2. Factions formed within Congress and the military hierarchy, and Revolutionaries in general, regarding who should be Commander-In-Chief of the Continental Army.

Some of our Founders, such as Massachusetts men Samuel Adams or John Adams, for example, were quite unhappy with the Virginian slaveholder George Washington, disliking his "fabian" or incremental tactics, and his steadfast refusal to seek definitive head-to-head engagements with the Redcoats. Indeed, many of Washington's greatest achievements involved the execution of prudent retreats.

But I digress. The issue I'm raising is that there were those who thought that Gen. Horatio Gates should be the Commander-In-Chief instead of Washington; others preferred Gen. Charles Lee (who probably committed treason during the war, BTW); and so on. There were even some "behind-the-scenes" intrigues that went on with drunken tongue wagging, backstabbing personal letters, and the like.

But my point is that many Revolutionaries had to "settle" for a leader that they thought was deeply flawed, or inherently inferior to someone else that they preferred But they danced with who brung 'em, and the man who led it ended up becoming the Father of Our Country.

I believe that the more Revolutionary symbolism that Trump uses during this campaign, the better, because this is (potentially, at least) a Revolution that is occurring. And, like the original one, if it succeeds, it will only be accomplished with about 1/3 to 1/2 the (voting, in this case) population, say. There will always be a stubborn minority that will be "Loyalists" and will be against the Revolution no matter what.

The great thing here is that we don't have to replace our Constitution or Founding principles: all we need to do is restore them.

If Donald Trump— through a pro-growth, populist/nationalist/conservative prism, can help awaken in the Peoples' minds those ideals which are the birthright of every American: maximum Liberty, minimum Government, Justice for All, Accountability, Opportunity— then what's happening could be a Re-Revolution. A Restorative Revolution (just the good parts restored from the original, so to speak!). Let's get the American mind back!

I vote we proceed with the Revolution...

We may be disillusioned eventually, but there's no reason not to be hopeful; look at the ordeal that this man had to endure from hordes of vicious haters across the entire Establishment spectrum. Tuning into 5 minutes of it at any time from any source would reveal blatant distortion of information; the most slanted propaganda and yellow journalism that you could possibly imagine.

Donald Trump withstood that relentless onslaught for months on end. He became stronger, and emerged the winner.

What Trump has done is an incredible, amazing feat by any reasonable standard of measurement.

There's something BIG happening, and we can all be part of it! Don't stand on the sidelines, and have a little faith! Let's do this!

Or, we could just keep doing the concern troll thing for a while longer...

Vote Trump!

241 posted on 05/04/2016 10:50:14 PM PDT by sargon (Vote Trump!)
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