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800 Leaked Pages From TTIP Trade Deal Might Doom Treaties Prospects
Conservative Treehouse ^ | May 3, 2016 | Sundance

Posted on 05/03/2016 5:55:22 AM PDT by detective

The U.K Independent is reporting that a massive 800 page leak (sourced to Greenpeace activists) of the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) may doom the ongoing negotiations.

(Excerpt) Read more at theconservativetreehouse.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: obama; ttip
Another bad trade deal from the Obama administration.
1 posted on 05/03/2016 5:55:22 AM PDT by detective
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To: detective

So $h!thead is planning to commit the USA without giving the citizens notice or chance to comment.


2 posted on 05/03/2016 5:56:21 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: detective

We wish. Only thing that MAY stop the deal, the Trumpster gets elected.


3 posted on 05/03/2016 5:57:02 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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To: I want the USA back

Stop the world... I want to get off!


4 posted on 05/03/2016 6:09:29 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What is freedom? To have the will to be responsible for one's self. "M. Stirner)
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To: SMARTY

What Kind Of Fool Am I?


5 posted on 05/03/2016 6:19:10 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: Bratch

Yup


6 posted on 05/03/2016 6:28:01 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What is freedom? To have the will to be responsible for one's self. "M. Stirner)
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To: detective

A HUGE favor being done for Patriotic Conservatives by.......GREENPEACE??

Irony: The Mark of Quality Literature.


7 posted on 05/03/2016 6:42:02 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: detective

“detective wrote: Another bad trade deal from the Obama administration.”

Why is this a “bad trade deal” when the article states: “For instance, the papers show that the US is looking to weaken the EU’s “precautionary principle” that governs how potentially harmful products are sold, Greenpeace says. The US has much weaker regulation that aims to minimise rather than avoid risks, and that same less strict regime could come to the UK and Europe under the deal.” ?

While other parts may be detrimental to the US, this appears to open EU markets to US goods. That would increase jobs.


8 posted on 05/03/2016 6:44:19 AM PDT by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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[…] They indicate that the US is looking strongly to change regulation in Europe to lessen the protections on the environment, consumer rights and other positions that the EU affords to its citizens. Representatives for each side appear to have found that they have run into “irreconcilable” differences that could undermine the signing of the landmark and highly controversial trade deal, campaigners say.

For instance, the papers show that the US is looking to weaken the EU’s “precautionary principle” that governs how potentially harmful products are sold, Greenpeace says. The US has much weaker regulation that aims to minimise rather than avoid risks, and that same less strict regime could come to the UK and Europe under the deal.

If the EU made further changes to similar regulations, it would have to inform the US and corporations based there, according to the documents. American companies would then be able to have the same input into EU regulation as European ones do.

OK so based on that snippet alone it looks as if what the U.S. is trying to do is level the playing field and not require U.S. exporters to meet a higher regulatory requirement than they need to meet at home, and which foreign exports to the U.S. enjoy. Isn't that the very kind of renegotiation of trade deals that Trump is promising? So if it could derail something like the TTIP in Europe then how does Trump expect to do better?

9 posted on 05/03/2016 6:50:29 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: detective

Ahhh, Obama on transparency...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU0m6Rxm9vU


10 posted on 05/03/2016 7:13:20 AM PDT by polymuser (Enough is enough!)
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To: DugwayDuke

“Why is this a “bad trade deal””

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3408284/posts


11 posted on 05/03/2016 7:36:20 AM PDT by detective
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detective wrote: “Why is this a “bad trade deal”.

My point was this. Based upon the article you posted, why is this a bad deal? The article you posted only included information that would improve the US balance of trade with the EU, reduce regulations, and create US jobs. IOW, this article that you posted does not make your point.


12 posted on 05/03/2016 7:43:05 AM PDT by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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“this article that you posted does not make your point.”

I posted the article to show the dishonesty of the Obama administration in keeping these deals secret. And once the information is known there is more opposition.

The article contained only small pieces of information. It was not meant to be a comprehensive analysis of the trade bill.

The other article I linked to for you gave a more comprehensive analysis if that is what you are interested in.

13 posted on 05/03/2016 7:51:43 AM PDT by detective
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To: I want the USA back

> So $h!thead is planning to commit the USA without giving the citizens notice or chance to comment.

Yup, and that tells you all you need to know about who it benefits and who it hurts.


14 posted on 05/03/2016 8:42:44 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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