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To: WhiskeyX
It is because the ability to discover the cause and nature of an individual instance of transgender physical and/or mental condition that makes it more or less problematic to determine which are and are not cause for concern with respect to claims of their being mentally ill with no regard to the biological realities and lack of mental illness.

Sounds like missing the forest for the trees. I find it highly ironic that many consider a single gene determines sexual identity and an entire Y chromosome does not.

We know that the Y chromosome makes you a male. We can potentially see correlation between a particular gene and behavior through studies, but that doesn't mean we have any idea how that gene is expressed physiologically to influence behavior. And humans always have a choice in behavior, even chemical addictions can be overcome.

Finally, we simply cannot accommodate every desire of every person in society. We have to make decisions concerning who we will protect, who has priority in society.

Bernie and Hillary represent those who live in a fantasy world where every dream and desire of everyone can be fulfilled, no matter how destructive, stupid, or evil.

102 posted on 05/03/2016 6:45:30 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: hopespringseternal

“Sounds like missing the forest for the trees. I find it highly ironic that many consider a single gene determines sexual identity and an entire Y chromosome does not.”

You appear to not understand the subject at all. The SRY gene is one part of the larger overall Y sex chromosome. Part of the function of the SRY gene is to provide a protein that facilitates the transcription of the molecules necessary for implementing the genetic coding instructions for producing a male physiology in the otherwise default female fetus. The sex chromosomes provide the genes which contain the necessary coding instructions and genes for the chemical transcription processes. When something occurs to change the genes or the expression of the genes and/or the way they bind a protein, the implementation of the coding instructions is altered, changed, or aborted in some fashion that produces a different end result than would have otherwise occurred. So, yes, one small change can redirect the functioning of an entire chromosome that a single gene on that sex chromosome was organized to control.

“We know that the Y chromosome makes you a male.”

We also know the Y sex chromosome makes an individual develop into a male only when the required genes on the Y chromosome are triggered properly to allow a protein to transcribe the molecular sequences in proper order.

“We can potentially see correlation between a particular gene and behavior through studies, but that doesn’t mean we have any idea how that gene is expressed physiologically to influence behavior.”

That is only partially true. Some physiological and behavioral changes are profound enough to become immediately recognizable while others are extremely difficult to discover at all. With the recent mapping of the human genome we are in the early stages of identifying the effect of the genetic code on some physiological determinants of some behavioral traits.

“And humans always have a choice in behavior, even chemical addictions can be overcome.”

The ability to change behavior has limits in certain areas of human physiology, after which death will ensue.

“Finally, we simply cannot accommodate every desire of every person in society. We have to make decisions concerning who we will protect, who has priority in society.”

So, what do you propose to do with the hundreds of thousands of people who are born with a physically intersexed condition, just jail them at home so they can no longer be found in a public restroom as they have done so since public restrooms came into use?

Bernie and Hillary represent those who live in a fantasy world where every dream and desire of everyone can be fulfilled, no matter how destructive, stupid, or evil.


103 posted on 05/03/2016 8:14:48 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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