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To: Bob434
You may feel the primaries are over- many do not- many still feel Ted has a chance- and would be a better candidate-

Anyone who thinks Ted Cruz nominated by a contested convention would be a better candidate than Trump winning on the first ballot is as crazy as Alex Jones.

I don't think Cruz would have been stronger than Trump even if he'd won fair and square. But that ship has sailed. If Cruz is nominated now Trump voters won't accept him as a legitimate candidate.

Right there he loses 30% or more of Republican primary voters. Then there's his weakness in swing states. He lost FL, OH, PA and NH. He can't win the general election. It is known. Jim is right, by continuing to campaign Cruz is only helping Hillary. Helping Cruz is therefore helping Hillary.

Is that what Cruz supporters want to do?

186 posted on 05/02/2016 1:27:53 PM PDT by MaxFlint
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To: MaxFlint
I think we need to defeat Hillary at all costs.

If Trump is the nominee, I'll vote for him, even though he was far from my first choice.

If someone else is picked by a contested convention, I'll vote for him (or her), too.

Do you agree??

203 posted on 05/02/2016 2:34:16 PM PDT by Smokey Stover
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To: MaxFlint

[[crazy as Alex Jones.]]

Alex Jones no less- my goodness you folks sure are inventively creative in your insults

[[I don’t think Cruz would have been stronger than Trump]]

Well, that’s fine, that’s That’s your opinion- I know Cruz would have never said he was fine with men using women’s bathrooms

[[If Cruz is nominated now Trump voters won’t accept him as a legitimate candidate.]]

I disagree- This happens every election cycle- in hte primaries- and when hte general swings around=- the opposite side swings to the nominee- What few don’t you can’t help anyways- they are lost causes who let emotion rule over reason-

[[Right there he loses 30% or more of Republican primary voters.]]

30% huh? Like i said, emotions always run high pre general election- always- that is a fact-

[[Helping Cruz is therefore helping Hillary.]]

That’s your opinion=- Cruz supporters think just the opposite because they don’t believe Trump will be a strong enough debater against hialrly because he simply doesn’t know political policy like either she or Ted does- and “I have really really smart people- the best- belehive me folks, the best- who know this stuff, and it will be unbelievable’ isn’t really going to cut it, nor are the constant retreats to insulting like He’s done in the debates going to cut it (Look up the Dana Bash moderated debate transcript for a look at how rubio pressed trump on his issues of universal health care for all, and trump repeatedly retreated behind his ‘trademark’ insults against ‘little rubio’ ‘sweaty little rubio’ etc- that won’t fly with liberal mods and their savior hilarly on the podium- it’s goign to be brutal- and he WILL need to have specifics and be very convincing to the independents to get their confidence)— The general election is far more demanding-

Now having said that- perhaps he has been working hard on actual policy specifics, I don’t know- but from what I’ve heard already from him- I honestly think he’s going to have a hard time against her and hte left wing media and the left wing debate moderators who until now have used kid’s gloves against him-

And thank you for a civil response- they are rare these days on FR-


204 posted on 05/02/2016 2:36:08 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: MaxFlint; Bob434

Apparently there have been 10 contested GOP conventions, 7 of them picked a different candidate than who was the highest vote-getter, and 6 of those 7 won the general election. Dwight Eisenhower is the most recent one of those 7 (he was 8 percentage points down under Taft in the primary vote in 1952).

So these facts should assuage anyone’s fears that a contested convention where the candidate with the highest plurality doesn’t get the nomination automatically results in a GOP loss.


209 posted on 05/02/2016 2:46:45 PM PDT by JediJones (Looks like those clowns in Congress did it again. What a bunch of clowns.)
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