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To: StCloudMoose
The U.S. Constitution requires presidents to be “natural born” citizens, which is commonly believed to include Americans born with the right to citizenship, even if they were not born on American soil specifically.

Not yet decided in law by the SCOTUS!

10 posted on 05/01/2016 4:24:13 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Don Corleone

Actually, if you were to research and do simple searches, it has always been understood to mean AT MINIMUM native birth. Native birth has but one definition.

If we focus solely on the native birth angle, and disregard any parental citizenship, we will find that throughout American history, and indeed in a dozen congressional attempts made since 1970 to amend the Art. II eligibility requirements, it is always, ALWAYS acknowledged that native birth in the US is required.

But then, I have personally spent over 500 hours reading material from the 1790s forward on just this particular topic. Most people don’t commit to such a study.


22 posted on 05/01/2016 4:40:41 PM PDT by Ladysforest (Racism, misogyny, bigotry, xenophobia and vulgarity - with just a smattering of threats and violence)
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To: Don Corleone

..Not yet decided in law by the SCOTUS...

Cruz is out of it because of Delegates, but you might want to take a look at the SCOTUS Wong Kim Ark case from 1898.


24 posted on 05/01/2016 4:43:21 PM PDT by Sasparilla (Hillary for Prison 2016)
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To: Don Corleone

Yes, it was, in 1875, Minor vs Happersett:

“it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

Chief Justice Morrison Waite


27 posted on 05/01/2016 4:55:56 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Don Corleone

“The U.S. Constitution requires presidents to be “natural born” citizens, which is commonly believed to include Americans born with the right to citizenship, even if they were not born on American soil specifically.”

That is a bald faced lie. At no point in English, British, British American, or U.S. history has any child been born abroad with natural born citizenship. Anyone wishing to dispute this historical record needs to cite the historical names of the people who were born abroad as natural born citizens without the protection of diplomatic immunity.

“Not yet decided in law by the SCOTUS!”

That is yet another commonly repeated lie; e.g. United State v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 18 S.Ct. 456, 42 L.Ed. “A person born out of the jurisdiction of the United States can only become a citizen by being naturalized....” The U.S. Supreme Court also previously decided a child born abroad with TWO U.S. CITIZEN PARENTS acquired no U.S. citizenship, naturalized or natural born, during the periods of time in which there was no Naturalization Act in effect to grant naturalized U.S. citizenship. Congress had to legislate a special act on February 10, 1855 to naturalize such foreign born children of U.S. citizen parents. Such naturalized U.S. citizenship is most definitely not natural born citizenship. So, “SCOTUS” decided and settled the issue of such children being born without natural born citizenship more than 171 years ago and reaffirmed the prohibition of natural born citizenship repeatedly since then in a number of U.S. Supreme Court decisions.


38 posted on 05/01/2016 5:53:15 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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