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1 posted on 04/29/2016 8:36:30 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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Give this argument some thought:

“Global Warmists”, or “Climate Alarmists”, or whatever that faction of Environmentalism is best named these days, want very much to prevent “man caused destruction of the environment”. Since “climate change” by definition is the natural state of the earth and its climate, efforts to somehow intercede on their part, however foolish or Quixotic, are contrary to their meme, arguably “anti nature”.

Their weak and easily dis proven thesis of man caused CO2 based “greenhouse effect” is not only deliberately fraudulent, it is unscientific by accepted standards of scientific logic. They offer no reproducible or observational evidence that any aspect of their argument is valid. Instead there is plenty of evidence of deliberate fraud, manipulation, and distortion of data on part of this movement’s supposed scientific authority.

Thus, it is they who are attempting to alter the worlds climate, however ineffectively. If all fossil fuel use ended today, resulting in the collapse of the world economy, the deaths of millions by starvation and hypothermia, there would be no appreciable difference in the measurable rate of climate change. It would do what it is going to do, period. Contrary to their fantasies, the resulting economic collapse would result in the widespread expansion of low tech, survival based burning of wood, coal, unrefined petroleum, and worse, maximizing pollution and CO2 emissions, which they so decry. They are therefore the movement that needs to be charged with environmental sabotage, certainly a RICO crime, worthy of heavy punishment.

Sorry, logic got the better of me, I am sure it won’t happen in the future, certainly not on any “Climate Alarmist’s” part.


33 posted on 04/29/2016 9:23:44 AM PDT by Richard Axtell (The March to the Abyss is speeding up.)
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"Will Moose Thrive or Die Because of Climate Change?"

Let me go out on a limb here and predict-
Yes. Every last one will either thrive or die because of climate change.

34 posted on 04/29/2016 9:30:56 AM PDT by Slainte
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will moose be able to handle a rise in tempurature of about 0.8 degrees?

Nope- I suspect they will spontaneously combust into flame with such a drastic heat increase- You will be able to witness from space ‘moose flames’ all over the world- the whole northern hemisphere will be aglow with moose running around on fire- there will be no more daylight- moose fires will light up the nights-


35 posted on 04/29/2016 9:33:01 AM PDT by Bob434
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If there’s more than one Moose, are they called Mece?


36 posted on 04/29/2016 9:39:18 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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If a worst case two degree temperature change wipes moose out, (1) that is a miracle because they have already survived worse, and (2) any species so delicate that two degrees is too much is going to die anyways, so I don’t care.


37 posted on 04/29/2016 9:47:42 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
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Moose are in greater danger from wolves. Since wolves were
introduced back into these areas, Moose and elk populations
have diminished.


38 posted on 04/29/2016 9:50:04 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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The biggest threat to moose in Montana, Idaho and Wyoming is the damn Canadian wolves imported to Yellowstone. The sport kill whole herds of elk and do similar damage to moose. Climate change my a$$.
39 posted on 04/29/2016 11:26:40 AM PDT by Myrddin
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