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To: Jim Robinson

Until such time as Trump secures 1237 or more delegates Cruz can still assemble a coalition of delegates from other candidates to either get 1237 or more on the first ballot or, if Trump fails on the first ballot, Cruz can win with a coalition on the second or later ballot. This is politics and building coalitions is a natural and expected process. Trump may have a hard time building a coalition since he has insulted virtually every other candidate who is or was in the race. His ardent supporters who have posted vile words about other candidates or other candidate’s supporters have not done Trump any good either.

So, no, Cruz should not pull out. He still has a reasonable chance of gaining the support of more delegates and more voters than Trump. Remember, Trump has not had the support of over 50% of voters, whether In primaries or caucuses.


426 posted on 04/23/2016 5:43:14 PM PDT by Laserman
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To: Laserman
>So, no, Cruz should not pull out. He still has a reasonable chance of gaining the support of more delegates and more voters than Trump. Remember, Trump has not had the support of over 50% of voters, whether In primaries or caucuses.

Your position is objectively pro-Hillery as that only result of this maneuver is Hillery in the white house.

430 posted on 04/23/2016 5:49:16 PM PDT by RedWulf ((Trump supporter))
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To: Laserman
So, no, Cruz should not pull out. He still has a reasonable chance of gaining the support of more delegates and more voters than Trump. Remember, Trump has not had the support of over 50% of voters, whether In primaries or caucuses.

Like most Cruzers, you don't understand math very well.

If he stays in, he will roll into the convention with somewhere beyond 700 delegates. You are suggesting that every one of those delegates would stay only with him if it goes to a second ballot. You are then suggesting that over 600 delegates would all switch to him.

Not gonna happen. It's asking for a miracle that all statistics would rebuke. It's not as if he's just so popular, likable, and persuasive that everyone is going to flock to him.

Okay that's the scenario of the second ballot, but it ain't gonna happen.

If the polls hold (and they've been holding strong), it's highly likely Trump gets over 1250. If a glitch happens, and he gets only 1200, do you really think the entire GOP delegates assembled will go insano and lock him out? That would ensure a loss in the general, a loss of the house and senate, and a loss of revenue that even the GOPe couldn't handle.

Sorry, you're just being delusional, or perhaps simply math challenged. Do the math, actually do it and you'll find how badly the deck is stacked against a second ballot, or Cruz being the beneficiary of that second ballot.

435 posted on 04/23/2016 5:54:02 PM PDT by Lakeshark (One time Cruz supporter who now prefers Trump. Yes, there are good reasons.)
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To: Laserman
So, no, Cruz should not pull out. He still has a reasonable chance of gaining the support of more delegates and more voters than Trump. Remember, Trump has not had the support of over 50% of voters, whether In primaries or caucuses.

Try for just a moment to think realistically, instead of theoretically.

The GOP burns if Trump is denied the nomination. You are grasping at straws, as is Cruz. Cruz stealing seizing the nomination means, without any doubt:

That's Ted Cruz's best case scenario.

Do you honestly believe we should sacrifice both the party and the country's future on the altar of Ted Cruz's egotism, narcissism, and naked opportunism?

Are you f-----g insane?

Snap out of it!

Follow your reckless fantasy to its logical conclusion!

The willful disregard of Ted Cruz fanboys for the consequences of Ted Cruz's intransigence is really becoming infuriating. If you think that Trump voters are angry now, just wait until some clown like Cruz limps into the convention with, at best, 700 delegates or so, and tries to pull such a stunt.

If Trump isn't nominated, the GOP burns to the ground, fueled by the splinters of the unity Ted Cruz will have obliterated.

At this point, Ted Cruz's blind personal ambition is downright dangerous.

Fortunately, thinking people realize this.

That is why Ted Cruz is collapsing in national and state polls all over the country.

SO have your little bit of petty, vindictive fun while it lasts. By the time the convention rolls around, reality will have come crashing in to your tidy little dream world.

Of course, you'll discard your destructive delusion & vote for Donald Trump once he wins the nomination, right?

Vote Trump

439 posted on 04/23/2016 5:58:13 PM PDT by sargon (Continue insulting us with 24/7 anti-Trump diatribes and insults, your opus will be assumed.)
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To: Laserman

You can continue working against us elsewhere.


494 posted on 04/23/2016 6:43:07 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Laserman; mkjessup

510 posted on 04/23/2016 7:00:03 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("The bathroom deal is a big fat nothing burger." -- Jim Robinson, 04/22/16)
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To: Laserman
REALLY?

He got 61% in the N.Y. State CLOSED primary and he got 50% in another state and this coming Tuesday, Trump is going to get OVER 50% in several of the five primaries and WIN ALL OF THEM!

Cruz barely won his ADOPTED home state and he has NO way at all to reach 1237; it's over, done, finished for Teddy! GET OVER IT!

538 posted on 04/23/2016 7:56:41 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Laserman

“...reasonable chance...more voters than Trump...”

This is the problem. There is not a reasonable chance that Cruz will get more votes than Trump. This is irrational and continuing to undermine Trump for an impossible scenario is the reason that the constant barrage of anti Trump postings day after day are ultimately helping Hillary.

Cruz does not have the numbers and will not have the crossover votes for the general.

It is time to unite behind the frontrunner.


648 posted on 04/24/2016 1:18:47 AM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: Laserman

Trump had 60% + in the New York primary.


743 posted on 04/24/2016 12:59:42 PM PDT by Not gonna take it anymore (If Obama were twice as smart as he is, he would be a wit)
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